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Old 07-11-2011, 12:56 PM   #21
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You nerds know that Gary Whitta a PC gaming journalist wrote this right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Whitta

Live your dreams guys.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:38 PM   #22
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C'mon man, you are so obtuse sometimes. The movie could have a different interpretation of scenes/characters that make the experience of the book even better.
Ars longa, vita brevis.

There are thousands of films I want to see but do not have the time for them all. I've just joined Hulu prime for access to the Criterion collection, so I must be selective.

The Road is a masterpiece of American fiction. It stays with you. McCarthy is a gifted stylist: what he says isn't half as important as how he says it; his writing is hypnotic and poetic. Were it put into the hands of a pioneering and visionary filmmaker (and how many of those do we have these days, hmm?), I might feel compelled to watch it, but everything I have read suggests it is a straight and unimaginative adaptation.

It is impossible to describe to someone who hasn't read McCarthy's novel, but after reading it you are left feeling emotionally drained yet satisfied. The prospect of watching a filmatization of the novel seems utterly, totally, completely unfulfilling and shallow... Saramago's Blindness has the same effect.

Long story short, read the ****ing book.
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:31 PM   #23
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You nerds know that Gary Whitta a PC gaming journalist wrote this right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Whitta

Live your dreams guys.
I used to really like him on Game Theory podcast[thumbup]
Shame the podcast ended when his scrift got bought.
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:46 PM   #24
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With him being blind? It's not really a twist. There are so many clues to it throughout the movie. I actually figured it out in the first house he visited. That's one of the things I really liked about the movie was the subtle clues.
I do not think he was blind during the film. I never buy that blindness talk as there are far too many parts where he used his eyes. He might have been blind at the end but he wasn’t blind during the film. Like the morning the sun came up and he covered his face with his hands to reduce the sun glare.

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Another example, he came across the still dead man hanging behind a door and was startled. How could he get startled if blind? Or when he tests the gas brake pedals sees the man has shoes and takes them. He also throughout the film comments on things that only a person with eyes could see like the lighter with an American flag on. How can he look at a lighter and comment on whats painted on it if blind?

Lastly his eyes only had cataracts at the end of the film. It seems to me he was loseing his eye site as the film went on, not 100% blind from start.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:18 PM   #25
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McCarthy is a gifted stylist: what he says isn't half as important as how he says it; his writing is hypnotic and poetic.
What a beautiful sentence! Were it put into the hands of a pioneering and visionary filmmaker (and how many of those do we have these days, hmm?), I might feel compelled to watch it, but everything I have read suggests it is a straight and unimaginative adaptation.

It is impossible to describe to someone who hasn't read McCarthy's novel, but after reading it you are left feeling emotionally drained yet satisfied. The prospect of watching a filmatization of the novel seems utterly, totally, completely unfulfilling and shallow... Saramago's Blindness has the same effect.

Long story short, I will only watch it if you cuddle with me. Argh... Fine. Jut no attention below the equator.
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:40 AM   #26
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Ars longa, vita brevis.

There are thousands of films I want to see but do not have the time for them all. I've just joined Hulu prime for access to the Criterion collection, so I must be selective.

The Road is a masterpiece of American fiction. It stays with you. McCarthy is a gifted stylist: what he says isn't half as important as how he says it; his writing is hypnotic and poetic. Were it put into the hands of a pioneering and visionary filmmaker (and how many of those do we have these days, hmm?), I might feel compelled to watch it, but everything I have read suggests it is a straight and unimaginative adaptation.

It is impossible to describe to someone who hasn't read McCarthy's novel, but after reading it you are left feeling emotionally drained yet satisfied. The prospect of watching a filmatization of the novel seems utterly, totally, completely unfulfilling and shallow... Saramago's Blindness has the same effect.

Long story short, read the ****ing book.
You know, it's possible to like both for what they are.

The film doesn't make the book any less brilliant.
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Old 08-11-2011, 07:22 AM   #27
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I do not think he was blind during the film. I never buy that blindness talk as there are far too many parts where he used his eyes. He might have been blind at the end but he wasn’t blind during the film. Like the morning the sun came up and he covered his face with his hands to reduce the sun glare.

EDIT:
Another example, he came across the still dead man hanging behind a door and was startled. How could he get startled if blind? Or when he tests the gas brake pedals sees the man has shoes and takes them. He also throughout the film comments on things that only a person with eyes could see like the lighter with an American flag on. How can he look at a lighter and comment on whats painted on it if blind?

Lastly his eyes only had cataracts at the end of the film. It seems to me he was loseing his eye site as the film went on, not 100% blind from start.
Here are a couple of theories on it.

http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/01/19...e-book-of-eli/

I still feel he was blind the entire time. His sense were heightened, and he makes a ton of references to using scent to locate his enemies.

When he was in the "pawn" shop, the owner mentioned the brand and part number of the battery he was holding. Eli said "is it," as if he had no idea what the make of it was, only the fact that the likeness was that of a battery.

Also, Eli in the Bible was blind. I could list about a million references to accentuate his blindness but a simple google search will suffice.
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Old 08-11-2011, 07:30 AM   #28
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I honestly didn't even know there were people out there that thought he wasn't blind. It was painfully obvious, IMHO of course.
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Old 08-11-2011, 08:31 AM   #29
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Wasn't talking to you. You go sit in a corner and read a book.
The Road was a good book and was translated into perhaps the last great "love letter" to McCarthy - the film is so true to its Authors creation that it left many feeling bored to tears. On a side note: i loved it.
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Old 08-11-2011, 05:11 PM   #30
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Here are a couple of theories on it.

http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/01/19...e-book-of-eli/

I still feel he was blind the entire time. His sense were heightened, and he makes a ton of references to using scent to locate his enemies.
The thing is none of the references to blindness have to mean he is blind. Every single thing people say is due to blindness can happen to with someone who isn't blind. You don't have to be blind to have heightened senses.

The best example for not being blind is in the cabin where he listens to music and falls sleep. In the morning he is woken up by light shining on his eyes then he covers his eyes up to shield from the light. That is impossible for a blind person.

All the times he user's his eyes are never explained away by the people who say his is blind. There is also no evidence to prove he is blind only hints.

Saying that I do like the theory that he slowly went blind from the walking in the sun over the 30 year faith journey. That would explain all the users of his eyes in the first half of the movie as it seems he users his eyes less and less as the movie goes on. Add in the fact his eyes only go clouded towards the end and it seems he went blind, not was blind the whole time.
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Old 08-11-2011, 07:13 PM   #31
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The thing is none of the references to blindness have to mean he is blind. Every single thing people say is due to blindness can happen to with someone who isn't blind. You don't have to be blind to have heightened senses.

The best example for not being blind is in the cabin where he listens to music and falls sleep. In the morning he is woken up by light shining on his eyes then he covers his eyes up to shield from the light. That is impossible for a blind person.

All the times he user's his eyes are never explained away by the people who say his is blind. There is also no evidence to prove he is blind only hints.

Saying that I do like the theory that he slowly went blind from the walking in the sun over the 30 year faith journey. That would explain all the users of his eyes in the first half of the movie as it seems he users his eyes less and less as the movie goes on. Add in the fact his eyes only go clouded towards the end and it seems he went blind, not was blind the whole time.
You do realize that someone who is legally blind can see light and be sensitive to it right?

And only showing his clouded eyes in the end is due to not spoiling the twist early.
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Old 08-12-2011, 04:44 AM   #32
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She knew braille because she was blind before the bombs. It is likely he knew braille because he too was blind before the world ended. Braille is not easy to learn with everything intact. It would be near impossible to learn it with the world burning/destroyed which is why the bible was useless to Gary Oldman
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Old 08-12-2011, 05:47 AM   #33
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Also, Eli in the Bible was blind. I could list about a million references to accentuate his blindness but a simple google search will suffice.
Just a small addendum to that ^^
While google will show up Eli and Blind as a fact, its not.
Eli slowly went blind. Only at the end of his life he is completely blind.
Long story short Eli did a piss poor job of raising his sons and is stripped of everything (priesthood, judge, sight) And to top it off: he dies when he hears his 2 sons are killed and the ark is taken.

So i dont think Eli in the movie has much todo with the man in the movie
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Old 09-12-2011, 12:13 AM   #34
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The fact that he's blind adds nothing to this movie, just makes it even less credible. And the Bible? Really? Going to ruin the world for a second time?
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:49 AM   #35
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really like the FO3 atmosphere. ignored the blindness thing completely.

it was only a "twist" in the same way steven king novels end with a twist "god did it".

ignore that and its a great film. gary oldman owns as per usual.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:38 AM   #36
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just makes it even less credible.
...Did you also watch Transformers and say "Robots like that arn't even possible yet, what a less credible movie!"? [rofl]

I actually just watched TBOE last night for the first time, and I have to say it's one of the most kick ass movies i'v seen recently!
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:48 AM   #37
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**** it. Going to watch it tonight and join in.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:38 AM   #38
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...Did you also watch Transformers and say "Robots like that arn't even possible yet, what a less credible movie!"? [rofl]

I actually just watched TBOE last night for the first time, and I have to say it's one of the most kick ass movies i'v seen recently!
While transformers is obviously an even shittier movie than TBSOE, at least the premise of transforming car-robots with ghetto accents and a poor sense of humor changes something about the story. Eli being blind does not change a thing about the story or the movie at all. It's a very, very, very weak attempt of throwing something resembling a twist in the movie. As if I'm suddenly supposed to be impressed that the stereotypical angry black guy who goes by the name of Denzel Washington is able to perform all those action scenes while being supposedly blind. Add to that the Christian fundamentalist undertones and this otherwise reasonably atmospheric movie is royally ruined.
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:27 AM   #39
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While transformers is obviously an even shittier movie than TBSOE, at least the premise of transforming car-robots with ghetto accents and a poor sense of humor changes something about the story. Eli being blind does not change a thing about the story or the movie at all. It's a very, very, very weak attempt of throwing something resembling a twist in the movie. As if I'm suddenly supposed to be impressed that the stereotypical angry black guy who goes by the name of Denzel Washington is able to perform all those action scenes while being supposedly blind. Add to that the Christian fundamentalist undertones and this otherwise reasonably atmospheric movie is royally ruined.
You sound like a very happy individual to be around.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:37 AM   #40
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You sound like a a very happy individual to be around.
When it turned out to be the Bible it automatically dropped the movie from an 8 to a 7 IMO. Maybe my atheism was getting in the way.
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