[agiopwer]

I know. I was just making the point that the stewards won't like it whether it was or not.

I didn't want to say it, but since last weekend, he's been a whiny little bitch. And every moan and grunt uttered by him is faithfully reproduced online, it's not like he needs to be baited or manipulated to say this crap.

[preachadaq]

Apparently Lewis has been to see the stewards and apologised for his remark.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor...07814429_x.htm

[preachadaq]

Looks like Alonso's pretty much given up on the Championship already.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/form...e/13591355.stm

[AnypecekceS]

Apparently Lewis has been to see the stewards and apologised for his remark.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor...07814429_x.htm

I hope he apologised to the other drivers for driving like a chav, as well!

[yPuqQ248]

I'll probably get shot down for this but was Senna any different?

to quote the man himself...

By being a racing driver you are under risk all the time. By being a racing driver means you are racing with other people. And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver because we are competing, competing to win. And the main motivation to all of us is to compete for victory, it's not to come 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. I race to win as long as I feel it's possible. Sometimes you get it wrong? Sure, it's impossible to get it right all the time. But I race designed to win, as long as I feel I'm doing it right Some would say that for Lewis there was no gaps but were not the one's racing.

[XqrkN4a0]

Essentially, he's sticking his nose in and leaving it up to the other driver to turn in or not. He did it to Schumacher at turn one, and Schumacher got out the way. There's a lot been left up to the other driver, as to weather they want to have an accident or not.

[agiopwer]

I'll probably get shot down for this but was Senna any different?

to quote the man himself...

Some would say that for Lewis there was no gaps but were not the one's racing.

The problem with that style is that you ALWAYS have to race like that, otherwise you end up playing chicken. Once every driver on the track knows you're going to go for any gap then they'll be more likely to leave you room and settle for a finish.

[vicgirl]

I didn't watch the race, but decided to look for a video of the Massa-Hamilton tangle.

Found a pretty good video of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzyHNoWP4uc

Well from what I can tell it looks like Hamilton was too aggressive. He would have run wide at the exit of the hairpin and I suppose he expected Massa, who as half a car's length in front of him, to brake hard enough and end up BEHIND him to avoid the crash?

edit: I have to admit I do enjoy Hamilton's honesty somewhat, eventhough I might not agree with him at times (eg: this crash).

[XqrkN4a0]

I didn't watch the race, but decided to look for a video of the Massa-Hamilton tangle.

Found a pretty good video of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzyHNoWP4uc

Well from what I can tell it looks like Hamilton was too aggressive. He would have run wide at the exit of the hairpin and I suppose he expected Massa, who as half a car's length in front of him, to brake hard enough and end up BEHIND him to avoid the crash?

No, just to take a wider line round the hairpin. Massa's line was far tighter than the car ahead of him for example. It was still a bit ambitious though.

[vicgirl]

No, just to take a wider line round the hairpin. Massa's line was far tighter than the car ahead of him for example. It was still a bit ambitious though.

Hamilton's line was such that even steering locked he would still be too close to the wall for Massa to be alongside him. Notice in the video that even cutting the hairpin and with his hands crossed, turning the wheel as much as he could, he was still pushing Massa towards the wall. Massa would have to slow way down to go behind Hamilton to avoid that. Or more reasonably, Hamilton should have aborted that attempt. That kind of move reminds me of amateur night, something a n00b like me would do in racing because I'm too impatient sometimes.

[syncFisee]

I'll probably get shot down for this but was Senna any different?

to quote the man himself...

Some would say that for Lewis there was no gaps but were not the one's racing.

He wasn't, neither was Shumacher.

It's racing, in extremely fast cars, you either are aggressive or you end up last.

Senna used to pace his rivals by pulling a aggressive move on them and see how they will react. His general rule was that if they didn't react appropriately he would have them under his thumb all race long.

[tactWeiccaf]

Well Hamilton was just too aggressive for Monaco. Many other people were able to make clean overtaking maneuvers on Sunday. He had absolutely no chance in the hairpin, got there way too late to make a successful move on Massa. The move on Maldonado was even worse. As for the tyre change on the grid during the red flag. That probably ruined Alsonso and Button's chance to win and most likely an awesome finish, C'est la vie.

Vettel was very lucky on Sunday. Alonso was all over Vettel, I'd say once Vettel's tyres had gone off Alonso would have made a move on a not much better set of tyres and taken them both out leaving the win for Button possibly a podium for Kobayashi.

Probably a day Hamilton would rather forget, I don't think Vettel will forget it though.

Also comparing Hamilton to Senna is blasphemy. Absolutely delusional.

Canada should be really interesting, my guess is McLaren and Ferrari on the front row.

[AnypecekceS]

hamilton is a LOT like Senna. He also did some very stupid things.