[famosetroie]

Anyone who supports piracy is a scumbag.

HAHAHAHAHA You are such a joke.

[TeemFilla]

Essentially I was forced to use MS Office for a project where I had to -God forbid- put an Excel chart into Powerpoint. This should be enough detail to garnish sympathy.

It is. The combination of the two regularly have me effing and jeffing at the top of my voice.

Which version of office?

[TeemFilla]

HAHAHAHAHA You are such a joke.

I think you will find that he was making a joke. [rolleyes]

[sabbixsweraco]

Multiple issues, the one that inspired this thread was every time I pasted a chart into PPT, it added the legend from previous charts into the new chart. This was also after staying up all night and making changes 2 hours before a presentation.

I'll have a play around with trying this later. Office 2007?

[dianakroshXX]

Anyone who supports piracy is a scumbag.

The word "scumbag" loses a lot of its value and strength when you apply it to everyone who's ever used pirated software. Scumbag is the new normal guy then, I guess. In fact, I wonder if I've ever even seen someone in my area buy a normal, boxed copy of Microsoft Office. Either it comes pre-installed, or it's downloaded.

At least now I have a free, legal alternative!

[famosetroie]

I think you will find that he was making a joke. [rolleyes]

No s**t.

[tsovimnpb]

OP - No, Microsoft Office is literally leagues above the alternatives out there.
They made an already excellent product amazing with the addition of "The Ribbon" and then tweaked it even further with the 2010 release.
With the latest version of Office you have the best Word Processor and one of the best Spreadsheets.

Office doesn't need to be expensive at all - Home edition allows installation on 3 computers for next to nothing.
Educational version is again very cheap.

Those that don't qualify - for the product you are getting the price is very reasonable.

If you're stealing it then you're just scum anyway and really and in all honesty, don't matter.

[TeemFilla]

OP - No, Microsoft Office is literally leagues above the alternatives out there.

Office 2008 on the mac is rubbish. Nearly as bad as Office 2004 on the mac.

[posimoka]

Excel --- > KaleidaGraph or Origin + Adobe Illustrator for customizable vector graphs
PowerPoint --- > Adobe Illustrator + Adobe Acrobat
Word --- > LaTeX

I haven't used Office in years.

[TeemFilla]

Excel --- > KaleidaGraph or Origin + Adobe Illustrator for customizable vector graphs
PowerPoint --- > Adobe Illustrator + Adobe Acrobat
Word --- > LaTeX

I haven't used Office in years.

You might get away with that at a personal level but we'd waste a fortune in man hours if we adopted that approach commercially.

[posimoka]

You might get away with that at a personal level but we'd waste a fortune in man hours if we adopted that approach commercially.

Not talking about commercial work where there is a need for cheap, multilicensing over hundreds of computers, all at the expense of banality.
I'm coming from the approach taken by the scientist and engineer communities (of which Will is a fellow member of). Many of the journals take LaTeX typsetting file formats, which are infinitely more versatile and format text on pages better than anything any commercial typsetting software ever could. As for graphing and presenting, I'm not saying that everyone needs to do it this way, but it's what sets my presentations and graphs apart from the graphed excrement that some others choose to present their work with.

I'd also argue that while yes, there is a learning curve with these tools, there are also learning curves with actually getting into the workings of something like Office, and that I could generate better quality visuals and spreadsheets as quick as anything anyone could do with their tools.

[brandiweb]

I use LaTex for all of my reports and such, but this was for a group project (I am getting an MBA too).

I am forced to use Office by my group members and workmates, plain and simple.

[TeemFilla]

I use LaTex for all of my sexual encounters.

Fixed.

[brandiweb]

Fixed.

False statement.

I have only used one condom since 2007 and that was on my ex-girlfriend (surprisingly not the women I cheated on her with).

[TeemFilla]

False statement.

I have only used one condom since 2007 and that was on my ex-girlfriend (surprisingly not the women I cheated on her with).

I'll level with you now; I laughed out loud in a really perverted way at that.

[brandiweb]

WHAT A ****ING PIECE OF ****.

Discuss.

[raskrutkaseo]

www.openoffice.org

[houkbsdov]

Ahem...

http://www.libreoffice.org/

[amelveEnromma]

the reason LibreOffice existed in the first place was cos of Oracle's potential commercialization of OpenOffice... but then, http://www.opensourcedevelopers.org/...ware-offerings



but then, the damage is done, OOo's team are mostly at LO now and more Linux distros are offering LO as standard.

[StincPriene]

Should have put this under Software discussions so I can raise my post count *cough* I errr mean it's the proper place lol.

Lots of people out there with 2003 and 2000 still, some of have been told how scary ribbon is! I think 2007 is the best one so far but maybe 2010 is patched up better than at launch.

My scariest experience ever with Office was a six hour on-site job with a customer whose calendar in Outlook 2010 would cause it to crash. It didn't help she had like 10,000 e-mails in her folders, making the PST file absolutely massive. Finally I reverted them back to 2007 and the problem completely disappeared. This was six months ago. What the heck?