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**xgnuwdd** · 03-19-2011, 06:42 PM

Get your head out of the gutter.

Look around you, bars, malls, airports, coffee shops... Apple products are everywhere! The iPhone4 has to be the most common device I have seen in the past two weeks.

As I look around the airport I am currently at, there are at least three MacBooks in sight.

Is this a good thing?

Note: I am writing this on a MacBook Pro Wifi Tethered to Android!

**Junrlaeh** · 03-19-2011, 06:47 PM

It's a great thing. Apple kick ass and their products pwn.

/thread

**Tyncneiff** · 03-19-2011, 06:55 PM

it makes me sick

**i32I7qyH** · 03-19-2011, 07:31 PM

Apple penetration - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTF7K...eature=related

**joulseenjoync** · 03-19-2011, 08:44 PM

Is this a good thing?

No, it means I may have to get an inferior product just to feel special.

**yK2VgoEI** · 03-19-2011, 09:51 PM

Have you really just noticed this? [rofl]

Apple do a great job when it comes to marketing, even marketing old features as new and in some cases just making stuff up.

**bixlewlyimila** · 03-19-2011, 09:53 PM

Have you really just noticed this? [rofl]

Apple do a great job when it comes to marketing, even marketing old features as new and in some cases just making stuff up.

An example of this would help greatly...

I happen to think Apple's products are pretty well built, the iPhone 4 certainly doesn't feel "cheap" to me, it has a feature rich operating system which offers pretty much anything I can think I might need outside of the "gadget, use once style shite". What's wrong with it? If your going to bash anyone, bash Nokia, from what I remember they we're the market leader, and maybe still are? Have you guys even looked at the ****ing shite they push out? What about Microsoft, windows phone... what a joke, seriously.

Oh, and yes, i'm an Apple fanboy, but I would say my argument has relevance in the market. I had a HTC Desire, and yes, the customisation was fun, for a few days, but then I started to miss the quality of the applications, the practically bug free OS, the build quality, the "bling" of having an iPhone... this is why the product sells, because its good...

Oh, and I love Google, they are an amazing company, I use a huge amount of their products, I run a google apps domain for over 1000 users, I only use gmail, i'm interested in everything they do, Android, no doubt, will be an incredible success, but... isn't there room for competition anymore? Each product has it's ups and downs, Android is by no means perfect, neither is iOS, but both have their strengths... surely?

**yK2VgoEI** · 03-19-2011, 09:57 PM

An example of this would help greatly...

Facetime, or video calling as it's been know to non Apple users for years. [rofl]

**sciectotacype17** · 03-19-2011, 10:04 PM

The iPhone compared to other phones is a very good product. Similar hardware to others and priced accordingly. Nothing out of the ordinary. Apple has actually greatly moved the mobile market and now the tablet market with a killer tab hardware wise and priced accordingly.

Though I don't care for Apple products in general. I don't like their mobile products cause I dislike OS and I do not like their laptops/desktops because these are the overpriced PC. Before I did not mind when they were on the G series CPU, but now they are 100% similar to say a Dell, just a different OS and $500+ more for a similar configured PC. So a $500 premium for their OS when I had rather have Linux for free!

Though on my side of the world, I see a TON of Android phones. Rarely ever see an iPhone. I see an iPad as often as I see a PSP which is never. I find odd cause these products have sold millions.
Just like I rarely bumped into people that have a PS2/PS3. Always been xbox 1 and xbox 2. For the PS2 I find it amazing cause there are like 150 million units out there.

**bingookenoo** · 03-19-2011, 10:05 PM

It's a great thing. Apple kick ass and their products pwn.

/thread

Couldn't have put it any better myself.

**bixlewlyimila** · 03-19-2011, 10:09 PM

Facetime, or video calling as it's been know to non Apple users for years. [rofl]

And market saturation of the device doesn't help Facetime succeed where others have failed? I think you'll find it just might

Video calls we'rent worth making previous to Facetime, now it's actually high quality video/sound that there might actually be a point to using the feature.

Not to mention, that it's easy... it works, that's all there is to it. It's not carrier dependant, and is country independant.

EDIT - It's also free...

**bixlewlyimila** · 03-19-2011, 10:11 PM

The iPhone compared to other phones is a very good product. Similar hardware to others and priced accordingly. Nothing out of the ordinary. Apple has actually greatly moved the mobile market and now the tablet market with a killer tab hardware wise and priced accordingly.

Though I don't care for Apple products in general. I don't like their mobile products cause I dislike OS and I do not like their laptops/desktops because these are the overpriced PC. Before I did not mind when they were on the G series CPU, but now they are 100% similar to say a Dell, just a different OS and $500+ more for a similar configured PC. So a $500 premium for their OS when I had rather have Linux for free!

Though on my side of the world, I see a TON of Android phones. Rarely ever see an iPhone. I see an iPad as often as I see a PSP which is never.

Just to clarify, I am an apple fanboy, but I have never, nor will I, ever, own a Mac/Macbook. Your on the money right there, it's an overpriced PC.

**Tyncneiff** · 03-19-2011, 10:15 PM

There's definitely an element of them being a bit of a fashion accessory as well.

**bixlewlyimila** · 03-19-2011, 10:18 PM

There's definitely an element of them being a bit of a fashion accessory as well.

Absolutely

**Tyncneiff** · 03-19-2011, 10:21 PM

Though I don't care for Apple products in general. I don't like their mobile products cause I dislike OS and I do not like their laptops/desktops because these are the overpriced PC.

I actually think Apple has the mobile OS down pretty well. On the other hand, I'm not a fan of OSX and would prefer Windows 7 any day, which is nice because like you say, a Dell machine is probably cheaper. But then again, we can start the whole argument that Apple Mac's are aimed at the higher end user etc etc

Anyway iOS is good. It's partly why Apple have taken the phone and tablet market into a new generation quite convincingly, and why everyone else is playing catch up.... still.

**yK2VgoEI** · 03-19-2011, 10:23 PM

Video calls we'rent worth making previous to Facetime, now it's actually high quality video/sound that there might actually be a point to using the feature.

That's BS.

I'm not dissing Apple products because specs wise they have always been good and they have pushed the mobile market forward, but that doesnt mean I have to buy into all the hype and marketing BS they spew out.

The iPhone is just one of many highend touchscreen phones, Apple marketing is pretty amazing, even getting product placement on the BBC before it was even allowed. [rofl]

**Mboxmaja** · 03-19-2011, 10:24 PM

Just to clarify, I am an apple fanboy, but I have never, nor will I, ever, own a Mac/Macbook. Your on the money right there, it's an overpriced PC.

I'm in no way an Apple fanboy, I just like having things that are well built and can perform the job required. It just so happens that Apple products fit this criteria.

The above arguement however is one of the sillest that gets thrown around on this forum. If you can find an equivalent spec laptop, to say a Macbook, that has a large multi-touch trackpad, backlit keyboard, similar battery life that is substantially cheaper then you have a valid arguement.

**MeeveStesia** · 03-19-2011, 10:29 PM

Apple's for tech posers

**JRixlcvF** · 03-19-2011, 10:30 PM

when are people going to realize that apple is in it for the profit...

**Wckcvhsg** · 03-19-2011, 10:35 PM

when are people going to realize that apple is in it for the profit

A company in it for the money? Shock horror! Who would have thought it! [shocked]

That's BS.

I'm not dissing Apple products because specs wise they have always been good and they have pushed the mobile market forward, but that doesnt mean I have to buy into all the hype and marketing BS they spew out.

The iPhone is just one of many highend touchscreen phones, Apple marketing is pretty amazing, even getting product placement on the BBC before it was even allowed. [rofl]

There's never been product placement on the BBC, and it's still not allowed now anyway.

03-19-2011, 06:42 PM	#1
xgnuwdd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 496 Senior Member	Apple Penetration Get your head out of the gutter. Look around you, bars, malls, airports, coffee shops... Apple products are everywhere! The iPhone4 has to be the most common device I have seen in the past two weeks. As I look around the airport I am currently at, there are at least three MacBooks in sight. Is this a good thing? Note: I am writing this on a MacBook Pro Wifi Tethered to Android! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 06:47 PM	#2
Junrlaeh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 568 Senior Member	It's a great thing. Apple kick ass and their products pwn. /thread Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 06:55 PM	#3
Tyncneiff Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	it makes me sick Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 07:31 PM	#4
i32I7qyH Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 418 Senior Member	Apple penetration - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTF7K...eature=related Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 08:44 PM	#5
joulseenjoync Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 488 Senior Member	Is this a good thing? No, it means I may have to get an inferior product just to feel special. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 09:51 PM	#6
yK2VgoEI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	Have you really just noticed this? [rofl] Apple do a great job when it comes to marketing, even marketing old features as new and in some cases just making stuff up. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 09:53 PM	#7
bixlewlyimila Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 367 Senior Member	Have you really just noticed this? [rofl] Apple do a great job when it comes to marketing, even marketing old features as new and in some cases just making stuff up. An example of this would help greatly... I happen to think Apple's products are pretty well built, the iPhone 4 certainly doesn't feel "cheap" to me, it has a feature rich operating system which offers pretty much anything I can think I might need outside of the "gadget, use once style shite". What's wrong with it? If your going to bash anyone, bash Nokia, from what I remember they we're the market leader, and maybe still are? Have you guys even looked at the ****ing shite they push out? What about Microsoft, windows phone... what a joke, seriously. Oh, and yes, i'm an Apple fanboy, but I would say my argument has relevance in the market. I had a HTC Desire, and yes, the customisation was fun, for a few days, but then I started to miss the quality of the applications, the practically bug free OS, the build quality, the "bling" of having an iPhone... this is why the product sells, because its good... Oh, and I love Google, they are an amazing company, I use a huge amount of their products, I run a google apps domain for over 1000 users, I only use gmail, i'm interested in everything they do, Android, no doubt, will be an incredible success, but... isn't there room for competition anymore? Each product has it's ups and downs, Android is by no means perfect, neither is iOS, but both have their strengths... surely? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 09:57 PM	#8
yK2VgoEI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	An example of this would help greatly... Facetime, or video calling as it's been know to non Apple users for years. [rofl] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:04 PM	#9
sciectotacype17 Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 385 Senior Member	The iPhone compared to other phones is a very good product. Similar hardware to others and priced accordingly. Nothing out of the ordinary. Apple has actually greatly moved the mobile market and now the tablet market with a killer tab hardware wise and priced accordingly. Though I don't care for Apple products in general. I don't like their mobile products cause I dislike OS and I do not like their laptops/desktops because these are the overpriced PC. Before I did not mind when they were on the G series CPU, but now they are 100% similar to say a Dell, just a different OS and $500+ more for a similar configured PC. So a $500 premium for their OS when I had rather have Linux for free! Though on my side of the world, I see a TON of Android phones. Rarely ever see an iPhone. I see an iPad as often as I see a PSP which is never. I find odd cause these products have sold millions. Just like I rarely bumped into people that have a PS2/PS3. Always been xbox 1 and xbox 2. For the PS2 I find it amazing cause there are like 150 million units out there. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:05 PM	#10
bingookenoo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 380 Senior Member	It's a great thing. Apple kick ass and their products pwn. /thread Couldn't have put it any better myself. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:09 PM	#11
bixlewlyimila Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 367 Senior Member	Facetime, or video calling as it's been know to non Apple users for years. [rofl] And market saturation of the device doesn't help Facetime succeed where others have failed? I think you'll find it just might Video calls we'rent worth making previous to Facetime, now it's actually high quality video/sound that there might actually be a point to using the feature. Not to mention, that it's easy... it works, that's all there is to it. It's not carrier dependant, and is country independant. EDIT - It's also free... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:11 PM	#12
bixlewlyimila Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 367 Senior Member	The iPhone compared to other phones is a very good product. Similar hardware to others and priced accordingly. Nothing out of the ordinary. Apple has actually greatly moved the mobile market and now the tablet market with a killer tab hardware wise and priced accordingly. Though I don't care for Apple products in general. I don't like their mobile products cause I dislike OS and I do not like their laptops/desktops because these are the overpriced PC. Before I did not mind when they were on the G series CPU, but now they are 100% similar to say a Dell, just a different OS and $500+ more for a similar configured PC. So a $500 premium for their OS when I had rather have Linux for free! Though on my side of the world, I see a TON of Android phones. Rarely ever see an iPhone. I see an iPad as often as I see a PSP which is never. Just to clarify, I am an apple fanboy, but I have never, nor will I, ever, own a Mac/Macbook. Your on the money right there, it's an overpriced PC. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:15 PM	#13
Tyncneiff Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	There's definitely an element of them being a bit of a fashion accessory as well. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:18 PM	#14
bixlewlyimila Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 367 Senior Member	There's definitely an element of them being a bit of a fashion accessory as well. Absolutely Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:21 PM	#15
Tyncneiff Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	Though I don't care for Apple products in general. I don't like their mobile products cause I dislike OS and I do not like their laptops/desktops because these are the overpriced PC. I actually think Apple has the mobile OS down pretty well. On the other hand, I'm not a fan of OSX and would prefer Windows 7 any day, which is nice because like you say, a Dell machine is probably cheaper. But then again, we can start the whole argument that Apple Mac's are aimed at the higher end user etc etc Anyway iOS is good. It's partly why Apple have taken the phone and tablet market into a new generation quite convincingly, and why everyone else is playing catch up.... still. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:23 PM	#16
yK2VgoEI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	Video calls we'rent worth making previous to Facetime, now it's actually high quality video/sound that there might actually be a point to using the feature. That's BS. I'm not dissing Apple products because specs wise they have always been good and they have pushed the mobile market forward, but that doesnt mean I have to buy into all the hype and marketing BS they spew out. The iPhone is just one of many highend touchscreen phones, Apple marketing is pretty amazing, even getting product placement on the BBC before it was even allowed. [rofl] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:24 PM	#17
Mboxmaja Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 510 Senior Member	Just to clarify, I am an apple fanboy, but I have never, nor will I, ever, own a Mac/Macbook. Your on the money right there, it's an overpriced PC. I'm in no way an Apple fanboy, I just like having things that are well built and can perform the job required. It just so happens that Apple products fit this criteria. The above arguement however is one of the sillest that gets thrown around on this forum. If you can find an equivalent spec laptop, to say a Macbook, that has a large multi-touch trackpad, backlit keyboard, similar battery life that is substantially cheaper then you have a valid arguement. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:29 PM	#18
MeeveStesia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	Apple's for tech posers Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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JRixlcvF Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 505 Senior Member	when are people going to realize that apple is in it for the profit... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-19-2011, 10:35 PM	#20
Wckcvhsg Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 494 Senior Member	when are people going to realize that apple is in it for the profit A company in it for the money? Shock horror! Who would have thought it! [shocked] That's BS. I'm not dissing Apple products because specs wise they have always been good and they have pushed the mobile market forward, but that doesnt mean I have to buy into all the hype and marketing BS they spew out. The iPhone is just one of many highend touchscreen phones, Apple marketing is pretty amazing, even getting product placement on the BBC before it was even allowed. [rofl] There's never been product placement on the BBC, and it's still not allowed now anyway. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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