[fkjghfg]

nope sx is perfectly manly [yes]

all you need to do is spray it pink and find a bird with a massive forehead and your all set

Well it's purple atm so....


But I could take those wheels!

[Morageort]

Well it's purple atm so....


But I could take those wheels!

they are known as beyern mesh or of a similar design

[Reocourgigiot]

4th gen Legacy 2.5GT is a awesome vehicle. Had the chance to get a drive in one about a year ago and its definition of iron fist in a velvet glove.
Looks very understated but classy, the GT alloys, hood scoop and body kit subtle hints of what it actually is.

Acceleration is ferocious, compared to a BMW 330i its a bit unrefined in the way it goes about delivering its power and the engine note is very mechanical but its far more entertaining than the beemer, feels more primal. The AWD really holds the road well too so good for your ice problems.

The big problem against it is maintenance, brakes are expensive, wheels/tires expensive, maintenance on the turbo motor is much more expensive than a comparable N/A car, and in the end thats a bit of a downer. Provided you maintain it well, it should go on forever like most Legacys before it.

Not sure if you got the 2.0R 4th gen model there, but thats a fantastic option if you want to avoid the high maintenance costs of the GT. I didnt get to drive the 2.0R model, but its got the GT kit minus the scoop, smaller but sufficient rubber and a 2.0L N/A motor and AWD. Its an absolutely lovely engine, 16V, 4 cams, VVT, and redline at 7K rpm. Its good for 165HP without mods and ive been told its a hoot to drive as you can really thrash it. Though auto box should be avoided with this one due to the car already being a bit heavy for the engine, manual a must for this model.

[letmelogin]

Not sure if you got the 2.0R 4th gen model there, but thats a fantastic option if you want to avoid the high maintenance costs of the GT. I didnt get to drive the 2.0R model, but its got the GT kit minus the scoop, smaller but sufficient rubber and a 2.0L N/A motor and AWD. Its an absolutely lovely engine, 16V, 4 cams, VVT, and redline at 7K rpm. Its good for 165HP without mods and ive been told its a hoot to drive as you can really thrash it. Though auto box should be avoided with this one due to the car already being a bit heavy for the engine, manual a must for this model.

I'm pretty sure that's just what they call the base Legacy over here, no turbo, no hoodscoop, and 165hp, though I thought it was still a 2.5L, not a 2.0... Personally I think I may rather go with an Accord V6, or a 2.3L Mazda 3 5-door for practicality over the base Legacy.

[Reocourgigiot]

Seems the US market didnt get the 2.0R, you got a model called the 2.5i. Different engines, the 2.5i isnt the 2.5GT without the turbo, its the 2.5L engine from the Subaru Forester, SOHC 16V. Ive driven 2 Subarus with this engine, the 2005 2.5RS Impreza, and the 2009 Forester.
Its a reliable engine, but not much fun at all doesnt like to be revved and its not particularly modern (feels rough) or powerful its designed more for low end torque. The 2.0L engine is far and away the more advanced motor, but the 2.5i is meant to be more basic and cheaper to look after (an as a result reliable).

I still think you should avoid a turbo car if maintenance costs worry you, not just because of the turbo but usually all the additional stuff the turbo versions require, more expensive filters, oil, larger tires, brakes and pads and even plugs.
Outright performance might sound fun on paper, but once the costs come in youll be asking yourself was it worth it. Also with a less powerful car youll always be wondering how it would have been with more power . Though IMO if the car is fun to drive power really shouldnt be the issue cause there will always be a faster car than what you have.

[WaydayNef]

if your a hair dresser

A 350Z isn't a hair dressers car! nob.

[Mr Andrews]

A 350Z isn't a hair dressers car! nob.

Well, they tend to prefer Civics.

[fkjghfg]

A 350Z isn't a hair dressers car! nob.

Well some say that the most manly car ever created is a hair dressers car so what do you expect...

[letmelogin]

I still think you should avoid a turbo car if maintenance costs worry you, not just because of the turbo but usually all the additional stuff the turbo versions require, more expensive filters, oil, larger tires, brakes and pads and even plugs.
Outright performance might sound fun on paper, but once the costs come in youll be asking yourself was it worth it. Also with a less powerful car youll always be wondering how it would have been with more power . Though IMO if the car is fun to drive power really shouldnt be the issue cause there will always be a faster car than what you have.

Yeah, I guess that's true... I think I'll only get a Mazdaspeed 3, or Legacy GT if I find a really good deal on one, otherwise I'll probably go for a 2.3L version of the Mazda 3, or perhaps a V6 Accord.

When it comes to "fun" vehicles, I tend to stick more with motorcycles... Lots more performance for their price, I'm more comfortable working on them/find them easier to work on, find them more enjoyable to ride, etc....... Plus, if I do find a car cheap enough, ~$10-11k, I may not even need to sell my current motorcycle, which would be a plus.

That being said, down the line in 2-3 years, I could definitely see myself getting a brand new WRX, EVO, or something similar financially permitting.

[chuecalovers]

A Accord V6 more Practical than a Legacy? No way.

[letmelogin]

A Accord V6 more Practical than a Legacy? No way.

The practicality part was meant for the Mazda 3, not the Accord V6, but I'd rather have an Accord V6 over a base Legacy.

"Personally I think I may rather go with an Accord V6, or a 2.3L Mazda 3 5-door for practicality over the base Legacy."

[Reocourgigiot]

The non-turbo Mazda(speed) 3 2.3L is a great great engine, it makes a fantastic sound and even without the turbo its got some serious grunt, its probably a more neutral pairing with the chassis compared to the Turbo model which most people seem to feel has a bit too much power for a FWD car, in fact boost is limited in the first 2 or 3 gears to prevent it from torque steerings like a mad animal.

Id definitely chose it over the Accord, it should be cheaper to run and look after too.