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Old 05-12-2008, 02:40 AM   #1
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I currently have a Sony DVD player that has served me well for quite a few years. Now I want to upgrade to a Blu-ray player and I have a couple of questions.

I have a Dolby Digital/DTS amp and my current DVD player outputs a signal that has Dolby Digital or DTS from compatible DVDs. If I buy a Blu-ray player will it be able to output both a DTS or Dolby Digtal signal for my amp from standard DVDs? Also what output wlll I get from Blu-ray discs?
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:45 AM   #2
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Off topic a bit, but if you plan to buy one, do you want my copy of Hostel for £10 inc p+p?

It's brand new and unwatched. Mum bought it because she said it was cheap at the time not actually knowing what the film is about. [rofl][rofl]
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:12 AM   #3
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The discs often have Dolby Digital/DTS alongside (or instead of) the lossless formats.

Your old DVDs will play as they did.
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:14 AM   #4
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Off topic a bit, but if you plan to buy one, do you want my copy of Hostel for £10 inc p+p?

It's brand new and unwatched. Mum bought it because she said it was cheap at the time not actually knowing what the film is about. [rofl][rofl]
Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. It's not really my kind of film.
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:51 AM   #5
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The discs often have Dolby Digital/DTS alongside (or instead of) the lossless formats.

Your old DVDs will play as they did.
But will any blu-ray player support DTS and DD or will I have to buy one that specifically supports them both?
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:26 AM   #6
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Just out of interest are you planning to get an actual blu-ray player or just a PS3?
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:27 AM   #7
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But will any blu-ray player support DTS and DD or will I have to buy one that specifically supports them both?
Pretty sure they all support both.
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:28 PM   #8
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DTS-HD is backwards compatible which means if your receiver does not support that format it will revert to DTS Core to insure compatibility. I have yet to come across a Blu-ray title which doesn't have an AC3 track (Dolby Digital). The player will bitstream (which is what your current DVD player transports the multichannel tracks as right now) and allow your receiver to handle the decoding.

In the case of players such as the PS3 and certain stand alones, they handle the decoding internally which means if you have a receiver which accepts HDMI audio decoding the player outputs LPCM to the receiver for playback making it unecessary for the receiver to have DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD decoding. That info is really meant to arm you for any receiver purchases you might look into down the road. Basically if you are thinking about making the step to lossless audio do you want to make your investment now, in a player that handles the decoding, or do you want to pay more later for the receiver to handle the decoding.
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:16 PM   #9
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OK, thanks for the answers, guys.

I wasn't think of getting a PS3, no. I'm not really in to gaming at the moment so I don't think I'd get much use, as far as games go, out of it - I have a PS2 sitting around that I never use.

Next question: can anyone recommend me a blu-ray player? Preferably one with a coaxial digital audio output as that's what I'm using with my current DVD player and it would save having to buy another lead.
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:31 PM   #10
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http://www.play.com/Electronics/Elec...searchsource=0

Sony BDP S350 is £179 at Play.com and there is also a promotion for Casino Royale and Batman Begins on Blu-Ray when you register the player through a CD Rom included with the player. It has digital coaxial output as well

£169 @ Dabs http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=57J4
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:31 AM   #11
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OK, thanks for the answers, guys.

I wasn't think of getting a PS3, no. I'm not really in to gaming at the moment so I don't think I'd get much use, as far as games go, out of it - I have a PS2 sitting around that I never use.

Next question: can anyone recommend me a blu-ray player? Preferably one with a coaxial digital audio output as that's what I'm using with my current DVD player and it would save having to buy another lead.
May I suggest to get a Yamaha Dolby/DTS amplifier with TOSlink input and a SONY blu-ray?

Disgard my post if this exceeds your budget by much.
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:37 AM   #12
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May I suggest to get a Yamaha Dolby/DTS amplifier with TOSlink input and a SONY blu-ray?

Disgard my post if this exceeds your budget by much.
He already has a receiver that decodes Dolby Digital and DTS decoding via coaxial so if he wanted to upgrade he would want to get a receiver with HDMI inputs, as one with TOSLINK wouldn't be an upgrade.
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:45 AM   #13
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I know he has a reciever/amp with coax. And TOSLINK over HDMI is still not a downgrade either. Both are upgrades over COAX.
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:47 AM   #14
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I know he has a reciever/amp with coax. And TOSLINK over HDMI is still not a downgrade either. Both are upgrades over COAX.
HDMI offers an upgrade over coax/TOSLINK. (DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD, LPCM over HDMI while lossy only over TOSLINK and coaxial.) TOSLINK and coaxial are identical in performance, sound quality, etc.
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:56 AM   #15
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HDMI offers an upgrade over coax/TOSLINK. (DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD, LPCM over HDMI while lossy only over TOSLINK and coaxial.) TOSLINK and coaxial are identical in performance, sound quality, etc.
How about cable compounds if we start to be picky.
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:59 AM   #16
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How about cable compounds if we start to be picky.
In an analog cable you can be picky however not in a digital one.
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Old 06-12-2008, 03:02 AM   #17
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In an analog cable you can be picky however not in a digital one.
Thats not very true.

The quality of materials and the compound of diferent ones mized together does influences the signal being transfered.

Digital doesn't mean by any means it can't be influenced or that it has any loss of signal.

[edit] but I agree with you that withnew genre of recievers that inputs HDMI is an upgrade seeing it as a new hype. [/edit]
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Old 06-12-2008, 03:10 AM   #18
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Thats not very true.

The quality of materials and the compound of diferent ones mized together does influences the signal being transfered.

Digital doesn't mean by any means it can't be influenced or that it has any loss of signal.

[edit] but I agree with you that withnew genre of recievers that inputs HDMI is an upgrade seeing it as a new hype. [/edit]
The only way it would affect the audio quality is if the coax cable was of very poor quality which would cause the signal not to reach the receiver or to cause the audio to be intermittent. The sound quality is dependant on the quality of the DAC in your receiver which both coaxial and TOSLINK inputs must hit before going to the amplification stage. If both cables carry a signal which can be decoded at the receiver, the quality has nothing to do with it, hence making any working TOSLINK vs any working coaxial identical.
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Old 06-12-2008, 03:10 AM   #19
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Thats not very true.

The quality of materials and the compound of diferent ones mized together does influences the signal being transfered.

Digital doesn't mean by any means it can't be influenced or that it has any loss of signal.

[edit] but I agree with you that withnew genre of recievers that inputs HDMI is an upgrade seeing it as a new hype. [/edit]
Digital is on or off. If the cable was bad it would just not work.

When buying HDMI or Optical cables, the cheapest is just as good as the £1000 ones.
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:34 AM   #20
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The only way it would affect the audio quality is if the coax cable was of very poor quality which would cause the signal not to reach the receiver or to cause the audio to be intermittent. The sound quality is dependant on the quality of the DAC in your receiver which both coaxial and TOSLINK inputs must hit before going to the amplification stage. If both cables carry a signal which can be decoded at the receiver, the quality has nothing to do with it, hence making any working TOSLINK vs any working coaxial identical.
You have a point, however.. see my reply to horrorwood..
Digital is on or off. If the cable was bad it would just not work.

When buying HDMI or Optical cables, the cheapest is just as good as the £1000 ones.
Which many people seem to think that way, the signal is still being transfered through a medium.

The decoding chip is important, but it decodes the signal what has been given. That signal can be poor or good quality.

A digital TV for example get's it signal through coax cable that is being fed to the decoder, when that cable is of poor quality , has strong dents in it, or poor made contacts at the end, it will result in some static on screen. This can also happen same with sound.

Digital does not specially means on or off ie, signal or no signal.
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