[VUzgOhgv]

finish my frikken degree in 1 hours time, after i have done my final presentation! woop woop!

Onwards and upwards to my Masters next year!

anyone else finishing there degree?

[kHy87gPC]

Congrats. I still remember that wonderful feeling of never having to do another assignment or exam ever again!

[nicegirlflor]

I freakin finished my A level exams today.

[Alliopeti]

I freakin finished my A level exams today.

Lucky you, i've still got two Chemistry papers to do.

Can't wait though, because i'll never ever be doing chemistry again. [thumbup]

[nicegirlflor]

Lucky you, i've still got two Chemistry papers to do.

Can't wait though, because i'll never ever be doing chemistry again. [thumbup]

Yeah, I know how you feel. Everybody in my class feels the same way lol.

[anaisdannyxys]

onwards and upwards old chap and lets hope that all the hard work doesnt fall at the first hurdle with the ole

"over qualified under experienced"

excuse that employers like to use

[VUzgOhgv]

Lucky you, i've still got two Chemistry papers to do.

Can't wait though, because i'll never ever be doing chemistry again. [thumbup]

if i am remembering correctly, didnt you do your alevels last year????

[55TRATTERENRY]

onwards and upwards old chap and lets hope that all the hard work doesnt fall at the first hurdle with the ole

"over qualified under experienced"

excuse that employers like to use

I'm sure it likely will, even people with doctorate degrees in sciences get low-balled because of "inexperience" in the corporate/industry world, regrettably.

[SnareeWer]

I'm sure it likely will, even people with doctorate degrees in sciences get low-balled because of "inexperience" in the corporate/industry world, regrettably.

That's because they're the people who think they deserve a job because of the qualifications they have - it's nothing to do with the employers.

[Alliopeti]

if i am remembering correctly, didnt you do your alevels last year????

I did, but I failed Chemistry because I never had a proper lecturer to teach all the facts and I decided to focus more on Physics and Biology which I had a much better chance in succeeding in to a satisfactory level.

Doing Chemistry now as I want more UCAS points and I needed some time to decide what I want to do.

[NiliSpuppypax]

That's because they're the people who think they deserve a job because of the qualifications they have - it's nothing to do with the employers.

Someone who devotes 8+ years to their field (and countless dollars) should be able to get a job with out many problems. They should think they are deserving of a job (provided they aren't socially inept...). How those 8+ years don't count as any experience is beyond me...

[55TRATTERENRY]

Someone who devotes 8+ years to their field (and countless dollars) should be able to get a job with out many problems. They should think they are deserving of a job (provided they aren't socially inept...). How those 8+ years don't count as any experience is beyond me...

Exactly... Someone who worked to get a PhD in biochemistry and then gets the same starting salary as someone who just has a BS isn't right, and it has pretty much EVERYTHING to do with the employer, and their excuses to not start at a higher salary.

[SnareeWer]

Exactly... Someone who worked to get a PhD in biochemistry and then gets the same starting salary as someone who just has a BS isn't right, and it has pretty much EVERYTHING to do with the employer, and their excuses to not start at a higher salary.

You're both over generalising my comment, but I guess I could have been more specific.

If, using your example, someone with a PhD in biochemistry wants to enter a field where their study is applicable, then they should be able to command a higher starting salary and in this case, the employers would be at fault.

The problem arises, particularly in the UK, when there is a drive to ensure more and more people go to university. The only way to do this is to offer more degrees in less academic subjects at lower grade universities. The people who graduate from these courses have a propensity to believe that they belong on par in a graduate community with the likes of people qualified in the areas of science, languages and law. The same graduates then expect, since they have a degree, that they can walk into jobs with graduate training contracts and expect competitive salaries. It just doesn't happen. There aren't proportionally more jobs, so they have to take lower paid work, which is mostly where the over-qualified statements come in to play.

If we were to look in areas such as finance and engineering, having more academic backing (masters degrees and doctorates) that will put you in a stronger stead for your professional qualifications, then although starting salaries may not be that much higher, promotional scales will be and within 2-3 years the marginal increase will be much more noticable.