[peakyesno]

than the comparative desktop systems.

hmm hmm ?

ive got a centrino 2ghz with 2gb ram, 7200 rpm harddrive and it feels as sloooow as fook.

[Rabbahpuptiopp]

Hardware aint gonna be worth crap if your OS is trashed like Paris Hilton at Mardi Gras

[peakyesno]

Hardware aint gonna be worth crap if your OS is trashed like Paris Hilton at Mardi Gras

hmmm.

what you mean like a savy user with his own selection of software on an unadulterated install of windows performed by ones self?

[jamisi]

I totally agree, probably power saving related

[peakyesno]

I totally agree, probably power saving related

so even when you totally disable power saving settings it should make it as quick then >?

like fook mines reet slow.

must be because every things smaller and more compact the slower the data travels around the system.

[Dapnoinaacale]

Hardware aint gonna be worth crap if your OS is trashed like Paris Hilton at Mardi Gras

Coulndt agree more. Ive owned 2 laptops( I usually keep them for about 5 years,) and as soon as I buy them I format them and use tweaked/homebrew drivers and a fresh full install disk for windows. I throw away the setup disks that came with the laptop.

Laptops however, are slower also because even though they are "comparitve" to a desktop, they are still missing out on alot of the stuff in the desktop hardware. I.E. Fsb, Cache, Memory latency and speed etc etc etc.

Best thing to do is wait for a great sale on an UBER laptop, buy it tweak it out with homebrew drivers and tweaks and then keep it untill it physically cant run anything.

[peakyesno]

Coulndt agree more. Ive owned 2 laptops( I usually keep them for about 5 years,) and as soon as I buy them I format them and use tweaked/homebrew drivers and a fresh full install disk for windows. I throw away the setup disks that came with the laptop.

Laptops however, are slower also because even though they are "comparitve" to a desktop, they are still missing out on alot of the stuff in the desktop hardware. I.E. Fsb, Cache, Memory latency and speed etc etc etc.

Best thing to do is wait for a great sale on an UBER laptop, buy it tweak it out with homebrew drivers and tweaks and then keep it untill it physically cant run anything.

my laptop is uber, well it was 8 months ago.

but its always felt slow.

[Dapnoinaacale]

my laptop is uber, well it was 8 months ago.

but its always felt slow.

No offense, but doesnt it have a centrino? and what video card?? I mean UBER. Lol...

TBH, you might want to try what I said, reformating the laptop using a regular windows full install disk and then finding all the drivers on the internet etc. It more than doubled performance in games on my a64 3200+/1.5gb/m9600 laptop, I can play Half life 2: Episode 2 at high settings 1280x800 with completely smooth gameplay. keep in mind this laptop was bought in like 2004...

[peakyesno]

No offense, but doesnt it have a centrino? and what video card?? I mean UBER. Lol...

TBH, you might want to try what I said, reformating the laptop using a regular windows full install disk and then finding all the drivers on the internet etc. It more than doubled performance in games on my a64 3200+/1.5gb/m9600 laptop, I can play Half life 2: Episode 2 at high settings 1280x800 with completely smooth gameplay. keep in mind this laptop was bought in like 2004...

lol do I look like a complete noob.

of course I do a full reformat install and only install exactly what i need.

it can play games like prey, hl2 ep1 ep2, portal cod 2, silent hill 2,3,4. re4 cold fear, BIA 1 BIA 2 moto gp 3 urt , nintendo (cough) emulators.

all at 1280x800

its an x700 graphics chip with 256mb but the machine still feels as slow as fook.

its a dothan 2ghz pentium m chip

when its running games its fast but it feels week in windows and just seems to trudge along where as a mates computer with equivalent parts seems to fly.

ive tries all sorts of laptops and they all feel boggy to me


and honestly a 9600 and 3200+ would chug like hell on high settings in Ep2.

[Dapnoinaacale]

lol do I look like a complete noob.

of course I do a full reformat install and only install exactly what i need.

it can play games like prey, hl2 ep1 ep2, portal cod 2, silent hill 2,3,4. re4 cold fear, BIA 1 BIA 2 moto gp 3 urt , nintendo (cough) emulators.

all at 1280x800

its an x700 graphics chip with 256mb but the machine still feels as slow as fook.

its a dothan 2ghz pentium m chip

when its running games its fast but it feels week in windows and just seems to trudge along where as a mates computer with equivalent parts seems to fly.

ive tries all sorts of laptops and they all feel boggy to me


and honestly a 9600 and 3200+ would chug like hell on high settings in Ep2.

1280x800 no aa/no af all settings high about 25fps avg, dips into 15-20 in large area's such as at the end with the walkers and the car etc etc.

[Audi_z]

I see three reasons:

Vista

all the preinstalled crap (any Notebookmaker that would sell his stuff without any crapware added would instantly be successfull)

the harddrive, even if it is 7200RPM, still lags behind the desktop versions

[spineeupsenry]

I see three reasons:

Vista

all the preinstalled crap (any Notebookmaker that would sell his stuff without any crapware added would instantly be successfull)

the harddrive, even if it is 7200RPM, still lags behind the desktop versions

The Hitachi 7K200 laptop hard drive doesn't. But yeah almost all others do.

[girlsround]

My Sony Vaio (T8300/4GB RAM/5400RPM HDD) definately doesnt feel slower than desktop machines. Everything Vista based and all 2D applications run perfectly smooth on it. Thats with Vista 32bit.

I did uninstall all the preinstalled stuff though.

[FloareTraurne]

Its most likely to stem around the hard drive, regardless that its a 7200 unit.

My mrs has a 5200 unit in it and it makes the laptop impossibly slow when loading games [thumbdown]

And thats a santa rosa 7300 2 gigs of ram etc etc

[Ruiptuptubre]

i have no speed issue with notebook, 1 thing i found early on is most notebook have poor spec for none key item; most of them pick poor memory perfromance, HDD and stuff to bump up battery life. so i always study them very very carefully, looking at performance spec they don't normally show or know on retail.

i always reinstall retail OS to get rid of all the crap on them. 1 problem is it is not easy to find good drivers for notebook, so you might have to forego some functionality if you abandon the OEM, but at least you will regain some speed.

i been able to get my notebook to match their desktop cousin.

[Nurba]

Its most likely to stem around the hard drive, regardless that its a 7200 unit.

My mrs has a 5200 unit in it and it makes the laptop impossibly slow when loading games [thumbdown]

And thats a santa rosa 7300 2 gigs of ram etc etc

You're completely right... even though 7k200 and 7200 rpm laptop drives are all the rage they are NOTHING compared with a 7200 rpm desktop drive, old or new.
It's due to the fact that mainly controller performance is much lower in order to save power.

I have an internal Seagate Momentus 7200.2 100 GB 7200 RPM laptop drive and use a 500 GB P7K500 Hitachi with eSATA, and even though the P7K500 is a very low power and higher latency disk, it is remarkably faster than the internal 7200 RPM drive.

Probably a E7K200 or similar could mean higher performance, but also much more noise like a dektop drive, higher power consumption and more heat.

That's why i would generally recommend people to get 7200 rpm for laptops even though people say it's not that much faster compared to 5400 rpm. Since it's pretty far down on the performance scale already, by all means - get 7200 rpm

[peakyesno]

you guys do realise that you can use vendor software to disable these power saving features.

especially on the hitachi

[njfeedd3w]

don't laptops use slower memory to conserve battery life as well?

RAM = huge battery hog

[peakyesno]

don't laptops use slower memory to conserve battery life as well?

RAM = huge battery hog

slower ?

as in what frequency ?

cos the memory Ive got in mine is the same speed as you get in a desktop with the same chip fsb

[WUlcN1Rz]

laptops feel slower because they are slower.

mystery solved.