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Old 02-03-2008, 08:56 PM   #1
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Default 1024x768 resolution is 4:3 resolution how does it work on a 16:9 panel?
Ive owned a cheapo 32" 720p screen with a native resolution of 1366 x 768. 2 samsung le40m86 1920 x 1080 screens and a 1920x 1080 panasonic th42pz70.

All these screens had widescreen resolutions. So all the pixels were square, if anything was displayed at the native resolution of these panels everything is clear and unstretched. ( Using a pc is a good example )

HOWEVER im now interested in a pioneer kuro with a resolution of 1024x768.

This is obviously a none 16:9 resolution, its a typical PC resolution of 4:3

I have 2 questions

1) How would anything look if i connected a PC to this screen at native resolution, would everything be stretched?

2) I assume something along the lines of the each pixel is wider?

Please help because this is a deciding issue in getting a pioneer screen, i need to connect a pc to it without problems.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:21 PM   #2
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IIRC Yes, you are correct, the pixels on the Kuro are rectangular or you could say wider thus widescreen. I don't think it will look funny if you plug it to your computer.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:53 PM   #3
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Out of interest, what's wrong with the panasonic th42pz70?
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:34 PM   #4
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Out of interest, what's wrong with the panasonic th42pz70?
Mine was faulty and i got a refund ( after 2 samsung screens ... ), now i work at a well known hi fi shop. I want to purchase it from where i work for discount and ease of returns reasons.

Im limited to the 50" panasonic only which is too large.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:36 PM   #5
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i dont think you'd want to use it as PC-screen using a 4:3 ratio
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:27 AM   #6
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IIRC Yes, you are correct, the pixels on the Kuro are rectangular or you could say wider thus widescreen. I don't think it will look funny if you plug it to your computer.
i dont think so.. the pixels are still normal squares except there are more on the width to make it a ratio of 16:9
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:23 AM   #7
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i dont think so.. the pixels are still normal squares except there are more on the width to make it a ratio of 16:9
No not really, on the 42" plasmas the pixels are rectangular

http://www.plasmadepot.com/plasmatv/plasmatv101.html

Flat-panel TVs create images by using a perfectly flat, fixed grid of square or rectangular pixels (short for "picture elements"). You may hear plasma and LCD TVs referred to as "fixed-pixel" displays. Flat-panel TVs only have a single resolution, which is called the "native resolution" of the panel. This number is a pixel count: generally given as the number of horizontal pixels by the number of vertical pixels, such as 640 x 480 or 1024 x 768. The various video signals we watch (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i) are converted to match the panel's native resolution by a "scaler" that's either built in or a separate component.
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:11 PM   #8
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Mine was faulty and i got a refund ( after 2 samsung screens ... ), now i work at a well known hi fi shop. I want to purchase it from where i work for discount and ease of returns reasons.

Im limited to the 50" panasonic only which is too large.
Can you tell me what was wrong with your panasonic? I have a faulty pz700 right now and panasonic's trying their best to stick me with it [thumbdown]
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:36 PM   #9
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1 inch black lines starting at the tom going to the bottom, around 4 of them accross the screen.

They are very faded and in the background. Most noticable when panning.

It also has a distinct flicker on grey / white sources. But thats just a general thing with panasonic screens rather than a problem
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:54 PM   #10
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I tested my laptop via vga and 1:1 pixel mapped on the pioneer screen today, as i thought the image was pixel perfect ( not scaled ) but was none widescreen....

So is there a way to make windows display a 4:3 resolution at widescreen 16:9 format ( kind of like a 360 does with 480p! )?

Or even some games to do this?
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:34 PM   #11
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Some game do actually do 1024x728 (widescreen) - Lego Star Wars II and Call of Duty 4 are ones I've tried recently.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:09 PM   #12
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I tested my laptop via vga and 1:1 pixel mapped on the pioneer screen today, as i thought the image was pixel perfect ( not scaled ) but was none widescreen....

So is there a way to make windows display a 4:3 resolution at widescreen 16:9 format ( kind of like a 360 does with 480p! )?

Or even some games to do this?
Use a DVI-HDMI cable and use a resolution of 1280x720. Of course you won't be able to do 1:1 pixel mapping with that, but at least it will be widescreen.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:59 PM   #13
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Use a DVI-HDMI cable and use a resolution of 1280x720. Of course you won't be able to do 1:1 pixel mapping with that, but at least it will be widescreen.
Yea i thought that, but i hate playing games with scaled pictures......
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:59 AM   #14
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Yea i thought that, but i hate playing games with scaled pictures......
I play games on my plasma at home (which has the same res) and it doesn't look as bad as you might think.
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:15 AM   #15
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i went and purchased the pioneer pdpsx4080d screen, pisses all over the th42pz70 and my old samsung le40m86 for picture quality...

Obviously its not 1080p, but that means my 360 games and my older consoles look far better, and in terms of blu rays and hd dvds it makes barely any dif anyway.

The only thing i need to live with is the fact i have a stretched desktop when im using my comp through it, but thats easily fixed with videos and changing the aspect ratio, with games i kinda have to live with it or hope for a widescreen option..


Ive always got my dell 3007 wfps for gaming on anyway
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