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Old 05-25-2007, 10:17 AM   #21
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i hope he doesn't test any fault batches
Well obviously not yet
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:43 AM   #22
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Would someone who is taking some physics classes tell us what the approximate mass of a bullet would need to be to move a 165 lb person? I know there are a lot of variables from friction to muscular resistance (like stepping backwards) but that's why you're taking physics classes! Someone with more expertise should give a reasonable approximation of the velocity of a "typical" bullet.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:02 PM   #23
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The fat alone can probably stop most low caliber bullets.
That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:21 PM   #24
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An AK-47 round can barerly knock down a person when shot in the head, but not when shot in the torso. Source: Future Weapons - Discovery Channel.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:42 PM   #25
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An AK-47 round can barerly knock down a person when shot in the head, but not when shot in the torso. Source: Future Weapons - Discovery Channel.
You mean someone who gets shot in the head with a 7.62x39 round will stay in the upright posititon?
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:49 PM   #26
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On the program they tested the 7.62 that the AK-47 uses and it did succeed at knocking down a stationary 180lb target when shot in the head. It barerly fell down but it did knock it down. Now I don't know how well it would work if the person is running towards you and weighs more than 180lb, so take it as is. The M-16 on the other hand was unable to do this though, but this is, of course, because it uses a smaller 5.56 bullet.
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:52 PM   #27
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Not even a shotgun shot will blow a human backwards (unless the subject jumps in fright). Even with all the force in a bullet, it simply isn't enough to blow an object as big as a human forcibly backwards.
I didn't mean he should be flying backwards or anything, as he is obviously leaning against the railings behind him. But it's strange that he just stands there perfectly still like a dummy, and not even flinch when the bullet hits. I mean we're not talking about a 9mm bullet here... I'm sure the bullet vest in question is not the only thing he's got under there.

Depends on the rating. Level III is rated to protect against a 7.x62x51 NATO, and a level IV is rated to protect against a .338 Lapua Magnum (IIRC)
True but they will have solid plates built in, where as the one in the video is thin and soft.
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:56 PM   #28
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On the program they tested the 7.62 that the AK-47 uses and it did succeed at knocking down a stationary 180lb target when shot in the head. It barerly fell down but it did knock it down. Now I don't know how well it would work if the person is running towards you and weighs more than 180lb, so take it as is. The M-16 on the other hand was unable to do this though, but this is, of course, because it uses a smaller 5.56 bullet.
But the question is, did the bullet penetrate the target, or was the target solid enough for the bullet to dissipate all of its energy into it? If the bullet passed through then only a small amount of its energy would have been transfered into the target.

In the case of a bullet proof vest, all of the bullet's energy would be dissipated into the target, therefore it's more likely to fall over.
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:01 PM   #29
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But the question is, did the bullet penetrate the target, or was the target solid enough for the bullet to dissipate all of its energy into it? If the bullet passed through then only a small amount of its energy would have been transfered into the target.

In the case of a bullet proof vest, all of the bullet's energy would be dissipated into the target, therefore it's more likely to fall over.
The target was a solid metal silhouette of a human being. Being 180lb you can probably imagine how thick the metal was, so the bullet did not go through the target.
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Old 05-26-2007, 01:13 AM   #30
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I thought it would hurt like hell at that range

Does it pay well that job ?
the range gets boring if your not allowed headshots
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