[Oxzzlvpg]

right chaps I need a little help here.

Im currently on a GPRS connection and my internet is pants because ive had to move out of my normal place of residence due to refurbishment.

what I need from you guys is any links or copy and pastes on the procedures the UK police have to do when they catch you speeding using a speed gun.

the reasons is

A: I was overtaking a slower vehicle at the time it was doing approx 50 mph and my speed was approx 70 mph (60mph zone) at 3 am in the morning

B: I was not hammering down the road I was simply overtaking and the police car was parked behind a white bus stop unvisiable untill I was almost on top of it.

C: once I over took with out the police presence I would have resumed at the national speed limit for that road (60mph)

I just cannot remember if the police have to pull you over in order to supply you with a ticket when detected with a speed gun.


please I dont want no "you were speeding theres no excuses" crap because I was overtaking which was totally permissable on that road and as you may be aware you cannot overtake if your doing the same speed as the slower vehicle so you have to accellerate.

anh help would be great !

[L8fGLM4d]

If I were you I would just sit tight and wait. They may not have been radar gunning. Even if they were they may not have got you.

Sorry but even though you were overtaking you were speeding and it's not really an excuse if your caught. I highly doubt you were radar gunned though.

[Oxzzlvpg]

If I were you I would just sit tight and wait. They may not have been radar gunning. Even if they were they may not have got you.

Sorry but even though you were overtaking you were speeding and it's not really an excuse if your caught. I highly doubt you were radar gunned though.

well the gun he was holding looked like a timing strobe that you see in garages.

[EnubreBense]

I'm pretty sure the radar gun thing involves a radar gunner, with another police unit further down the road. If you weren't stopped then, I highly doubt they took down your number plate as you whizzed by and are tracking you down as we speak ;o)

Not facts, but I don't think kavanagh qc frequents these forums [surrender]

[BamSaitinypap]

I'd say they just let you go. You were speeding 70 on a 60 road. A big deal, taken if the coppers would just sit tight where they were they'd in a minute catch some poor RAF pilot doing 100.

[tq4F7YKs]

Well the tolerance for a 60mph limit is something like 68 or something. If you slowed down afterwards, I don't see why they should give you a speeding ticket if you were just overtaking then slowing down afterwards. However I do remember my driving instructor telling me well over a year ago now (been driving with a license for about a year now) that you should not exceed the speed limit when overtaking, which IMO sounds rather lame.

At that time in the morning, I somewhat highly doubt they would be using a radar gun, so I'd say you're safe.

[JonnLeejsp]

Why didn't you overtake at 60mph?

[Heessduernbub]

However I do remember my driving instructor telling me well over a year ago now (been driving with a license for about a year now) that you should not exceed the speed limit when overtaking, which IMO sounds rather lame.

It's not "lame". If you were able to exceed the speed limit when ever the fancy took you there'd not be much point in having a speed limit in the first place!

[L8fGLM4d]

lol, the copper saw this:




and thought why bother with the effort silly RAF

[Essefsbyday]

You would have been pulled over at the time if it was a hand held gun.

If it was a c##ting camera van ur stuffed however.

[doolarsva]

Why didn't you overtake at 60mph?

because it takes too long.

i was in a similar situation a couple of days ago. following a car doing about 50 in a 60. overtook down a hill going into a bit of a dip. at the other side of the dip going up the hill there was a police car. its hidden until your right on top of him, probably doing about 75. not good.

[xochgtlm]

However I do remember my driving instructor telling me well over a year ago now (been driving with a license for about a year now) that you should not exceed the speed limit when overtaking, which IMO sounds rather lame.

At that time in the morning, I somewhat highly doubt they would be using a radar gun, so I'd .

As a professional driver for over 9 years now & also total driving / motorcycling experience at 12 years in total I can tell you that the speed limit is not to be exceeded at any time.

Overtaking should always be done within the speed limit of the road and if conditions and visibility of the road are good, overtaking where it is permissable (I.e not along solid double white lines in the middle of the road etc..).

If for example a car or lorry is travelling at 38Mph on a 40Mph road, there is no need or excuse to overtake as the car or lorry is driving at a speed close to the speed limit. If however a tractor or slow moving vehicle is doing 20Mph, then of course if it's safe, you'd overtake them and be able to do so easily without needing to exceed the permitted limit.

Okay, enough of the lecture [rofl]

Yes, I'm not innocent either. In my early years on my motorbike I got done for speeding on a 40Mph road. I was only 10Mph over, but I was caught and got fined & points. Thankfully, I've grown up and learnt to respect the road and other road users, even if they don't respect me (Driving a bus, heh, what you'd expect!).

[sztc38tg]

what do they do overthere mail ya a ticket or something?

[tq4F7YKs]

As a professional driver for over 9 years now & also total driving / motorcycling experience at 12 years in total I can tell you that the speed limit is not to be exceeded at any time.

Overtaking should always be done within the speed limit of the road and if conditions and visibility of the road are good, overtaking where it is permissable (I.e not along solid double white lines in the middle of the road etc..).

If for example a car or lorry is travelling at 38Mph on a 40Mph road, there is no need or excuse to overtake as the car or lorry is driving at a speed close to the speed limit. If however a tractor or slow moving vehicle is doing 20Mph, then of course if it's safe, you'd overtake them and be able to do so easily without needing to exceed the permitted limit.

I'm not implying anyone should speed at all. I don't speed where it's not permitted except maybe on a motorway. All i'm saying is that it can somewhat be difficult to stick to that limit sometimes. However that said, i've overtaken many times and only once i've found myself over the limit slightly, but reducing speed afterwards.

I wouldn't overtake a vehicle if it was close to the speed limit. I've only bothered to overtake a vehicle if it's considerably below the speed limit (like 40 in a 60 zone).

[jesyflowers]

I never even bothered to think some places wouldn't allow speeding when passing. That's a bit crap IMO.

Washington state allows speeding when passing on single lane roads. In drivers ed we were taught to pass at speeds up to but not exceeding 15 MPH over the limit. Though it doesn't appear there's actually a hard limit on the speed allowed (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.61.425)

[Oxzzlvpg]

As a professional driver for over 9 years now & also total driving / motorcycling experience at 12 years in total I can tell you that the speed limit is not to be exceeded at any time.

Overtaking should always be done within the speed limit of the road and if conditions and visibility of the road are good, overtaking where it is permissable (I.e not along solid double white lines in the middle of the road etc..).

If for example a car or lorry is travelling at 38Mph on a 40Mph road, there is no need or excuse to overtake as the car or lorry is driving at a speed close to the speed limit. If however a tractor or slow moving vehicle is doing 20Mph, then of course if it's safe, you'd overtake them and be able to do so easily without needing to exceed the permitted limit.

Okay, enough of the lecture [rofl]

Yes, I'm not innocent either. In my early years on my motorbike I got done for speeding on a 40Mph road. I was only 10Mph over, but I was caught and got fined & points. Thankfully, I've grown up and learnt to respect the road and other road users, even if they don't respect me (Driving a bus, heh, what you'd expect!).

true just because theres a set speed limit theres no limit to what speed you drive under the limit. just cos the limits 60 dont mean you travel at dead on 60.

but there is a 10% tollerance on the limit thats not common knowledge.

we get a lot of tracktors up here and they are supposed to pull over and allow traffic to pass but the areosoles dont ive been stuck in such a situation and have noticed that the tail back was upto 2 miles. drivers in general up here are inconsiderate or at the very least are ignorent... its taken me 15 minutes to get out of a buisy junction because no one wants to stop to allow you to pull out instead they just drive past and look at you smugly even though they rightly have the right of way but a bit of courtesy wouldnt go a miss and help with conjestion also people on roundabouts up here Im sure they dont understand them they just zoom through them without observing other vehicles or lane ettiquet lets just say that there are a lot of cars with big dents in them driving around.

I very rarely speed. unless im overtaking because you need to give a good space before you slip back in because you will cut the other vehicle up.

but you can break the speed limit if theres an emergancy and if your pulled by the police you need to ask for him to escort you. but I must stress that it in an emergancy if you get pulled for speeding and you tell the copper that its an emergancy he will ask you where you are going and if its somewhere other than a hospital you will get arrested if he escorts you there and you were pulling his leg.

[Oxzzlvpg]

You would have been pulled over at the time if it was a hand held gun.

If it was a c##ting camera van ur stuffed however.

yup thats what I thought and am still hoping is true because to get stung for merely overtaking would be a right bummer.

[Teprophopay]

because it takes too long.

At a difference of 10 MPH? That's a huge speed difference considering. That's about 15 feet per second, which means you will be able to go the length of my truck in one second, maybe slightly more. So probably would take 2 seconds to overtake total if you give yourself a safe distance, which isn't long at all. If it is not safe to spend over 2 seconds overtaking a car, then you shouldn't be overtaking at that point.

Not saying that I never speed, but that's a lame excuse.

[sobre]

as said with a radar they have to pull you at the time, as its not like a fixed camera or van where they have photographic evidence of this

i don't speed due to the value of my license, i might do 65 in a national speed limit but come to a built up area i stick to the limit even if i have an idiot on my tail

[ropinirole]

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