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DailyRingtone 01-12-2006 11:34 AM

the-biggest-most-expensive-science-experiment-in-the-history-of-mankind
 
http://skeletonproject.com/2006/11/2...-be-conducted/

Anyone ever read Angels and Demons by Dan Brown?

Zwnkkvle 01-12-2006 11:40 AM

Cool!

I wonder if their chief scientist is in danger :P

DailyRingtone 01-12-2006 11:43 AM

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Cool!

I wonder if their chief scientist is in danger :P
I heard they found a piece of paper he wrote his name on... except it was missing an "i".

Zwnkkvle 01-12-2006 11:46 AM

Haha, seriously though, I wonder if this experiment will answer some of the fundamental questions about the creation of the universe (oh dear a can of worms).

huedaanydrax 01-12-2006 12:50 PM

ah yes, i watched some doc about this on discovery channel.

some of the pieces came from canada too.

and it was a btch to install some of the parts

deackatera 01-12-2006 04:57 PM

Wow, read the book, but I didn't think that was real. That is VERY cool. I'm excited to see what the results are!


I love the time-lapse video of them building it. That thing is just massive. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/blink1.gif
Hope they don't nuke the universe.

Enrivaanonock 01-12-2006 06:14 PM

Haven't they been doing this kind of thing for years? This is just an upgrade to what they had before, so you can accelerate the particles to greater speeds.

VowJoyday 01-13-2006 02:26 AM

They're gonna blow us all up eventually, Happy Christmas[thumbup]

Zysyewgg 01-13-2006 02:39 AM

As far as I can recall, this(these) experiments are being done for the sole purpose to learn how to harness the energy radiated from this type of particle collision so we can effectively travil to other life sustaining galaxies to preserve human existance. Steven Hawkins recently won a major scientific award and gave a speech giving wind of such things citing this is the only way to achieve light(or faster than light) travil. However, this type of "research" has been ongoing for quite some time.......

snova 01-13-2006 02:40 AM

This is more or less just a refined version of what rednecks do on a daily basis: Sending two objects of roughly the same size and speed and smash them together in order to see the resulting explosion in order to learn something. Rednecks learn how to create a better demolition derby ring and scientist learn about the origin of the universe.

Zysyewgg 01-13-2006 02:46 AM

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This is more or less just a refined version of what rednecks do on a daily basis: Sending two objects of roughly the same size and speed and smash them together in order to see the resulting explosion in order to learn something. Rednecks learn how to create a better demolition derby ring and scientist learn about the origin of the universe.
Wow, thats not true at all...


The energy radiated from this type of particle collision is well doccumented and they are now in the process of creating a way to harness this energy for a specific ues, space travil. It was all done in a theoretical 'think tank' using math and physics to formulate a sound working theroy before an attempt was even made, so you really could not be any more wrong..

stastony 01-13-2006 02:54 AM

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Haven't they been doing this kind of thing for years? This is just an upgrade to what they had before, so you can accelerate the particles to greater speeds.
You are correct, particle accelerators have been around for a while. My school jointly runs something similar.
http://www.spa.umn.edu/outreach/soudantour/

snova 01-13-2006 02:58 AM

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Wow, thats not true at all...


The energy radiated from this type of particle collision is well doccumented and they are now in the process of creating a way to harness this energy for a specific ues, space travil. It was all done in a theoretical 'think tank' using math and physics to formulate a sound working theroy before an attempt was even made, so you really could not be any more wrong..
Please know that I am kidding here. I keep track of this type of theoretical physics almost religiously. Minnesota is actually part of a similar project, to study neutrinos I believe and this is going to sound corny but I was pretty happy about that fact. All of this stuff is beyond fascinating for me and CREN is the place for physics like this. All I am saying here is basically that what is happing is that there are things traveling at incredible rate, smashing into each other and that a dedicated group of people study and observe these explosions. They then take this knowledge and use it to create something better. The joke isn't the best but I just wanted to make it clear I know about all of this. I know about all the muions, the stranglets, the 6 different quantum states etc. I probably sonld like I am whining here but I'm not, just wanted to clarify.

Zysyewgg 01-13-2006 03:55 AM

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Please know that I am kidding here. I keep track of this type of theoretical physics almost religiously. Minnesota is actually part of a similar project, to study neutrinos I believe and this is going to sound corny but I was pretty happy about that fact. All of this stuff is beyond fascinating for me and CREN is the place for physics like this. All I am saying here is basically that what is happing is that there are things traveling at incredible rate, smashing into each other and that a dedicated group of people study and observe these explosions. They then take this knowledge and use it to create something better. The joke isn't the best but I just wanted to make it clear I know about all of this. I know about all the muions, the stranglets, the 6 different quantum states etc. I probably sonld like I am whining here but I'm not, just wanted to clarify.
Thanks for taking the time to clarify. It's not beyond some to make such ignorant statements thus is why I inadvertantly overlooked the humorus nature of your origonal post.

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sirmzereigMix 01-13-2006 05:04 AM

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As far as I can recall, this(these) experiments are being done for the sole purpose to learn how to harness the energy radiated from this type of particle collision
No, they're trying to see what kind of particles are created under high-energy conditions, not to harness them as energy sources.

deackatera 02-13-2006 02:58 AM

Bump for a superb thread.

I think that the cool thing about this experiment, is that it could be used to learn all of the things previously mentioned. Maybe we will learn something about space travel with this? Maybe we will learn how to harness infinite energy from this? Maybe they'll learn how to build the perfect demolition derby racer? Who knows. We'll learn SOMETHING though, that's for sure!

FsQGF1Mp 02-13-2006 04:37 AM

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No, they're trying to see what kind of particles are created under high-energy conditions, not to harness them as energy sources.
but surely they would be looking into this as well.

it would seem a little silly if they didnt

after all if one could harness the energy of the big bang it would be most adventagous to us as a human race

sirmzereigMix 02-13-2006 05:08 AM

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but surely they would be looking into this as well.

it would seem a little silly if they didnt

after all if one could harness the energy of the big bang it would be most adventagous to us as a human race
It takes a hell of a lot of power to cause these tiny collisions. It would be counter-productive to the extreme. I mean they're using giant electro-magnets down 27km of subway-sized tubes to push these things to 90% the speed of light.

DailyRingtone 04-12-2006 11:19 PM

Ideas to ponder:

-How do they ensure the particles collide when they want them too?

-How do they ensure that each magnet turns on and off at the appropiate moment? (Think about the fact the the signalling logic for the switches is electricity that is going about the same speed as the particles.)

-How do they have the particles travelling in both directions without impeding each other? Like, are the same magnets used for both directions?

deackatera 04-13-2006 01:11 AM

Electricity can actually travel at faster than the speed of light, if I remember correctly.
But I would guess they have a more efficient system in place. Rather than send a signal around the big loop, they have each magnet set on a very very precise timer.

How to get them to even collide, much less in a specific small area... that's beyond my tiny brain. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/wacko1.gif Lots and lots of math?


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