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**Progniusis** · 11-11-2006, 10:21 PM

Which is the most recognised qualification?

IE: If applying for a job, which would be the most desired to have?

I currently have a good whack of qualifications and obviously want keep moving up the ladder. Eventually I want to do Prince2 training and management stuff but until then I need more Network/Server support qualifications to keep me ticking over, which is recommended?

I'm currently pricing up the Cisco stuff as I've heard the MCSE stuff is a bit overrated? ...

Who has them/wants them and whats your take?

**R1king** · 11-11-2006, 10:44 PM

ive heard that MCSE is to computers as mcdonalds is to fine cuisine

**Progniusis** · 11-11-2006, 11:28 PM

Thats what I heard, but I wouldnt mind hearing from those who have the certificate.

**Preorbtat** · 11-12-2006, 02:10 AM

ive heard that MCSE is to computers as mcdonalds is to fine cuisine

I Like that analogy, I'm gonna have to use that sometime

**enentique** · 11-12-2006, 02:42 AM

Which is the most recognised qualification?

IE: If applying for a job, which would be the most desired to have?

I currently have a good whack of qualifications and obviously want keep moving up the ladder. Eventually I want to do Prince2 training and management stuff but until then I need more Network/Server support qualifications to keep me ticking over, which is recommended?

I'm currently pricing up the Cisco stuff as I've heard the MCSE stuff is a bit overrated? ...

Who has them/wants them and whats your take?

CCNP - Netowkring

MCSE - servers

Two totally different feilds... Depends on what displin you want to spec in...

**Progniusis** · 11-12-2006, 03:32 AM

CCNP - Netowkring

MCSE - servers

Two totally different feilds... Depends on what displin you want to spec in...

I understand that, but a Network Administrator (in my eyes) should be fluent in both Networks and Servers. End of the day a Server is on a network, therefore the person in charge of that LAN should know how the network, servers and its clients work.

I'm qualified upto a certain point but wanna advance even more, just not sure which one to go for... I've read the course details of both but just want some first hand experience to give their input.

**PetraCromlich** · 11-12-2006, 06:21 AM

Might want to look int some of the Red Hat certs as well if you want to be a sysadmin.

**Progniusis** · 12-11-2006, 07:21 AM

Might want to look int some of the Red Hat certs as well if you want to be a sysadmin.

Red Hat, as in Linux?

I have no Linux systems on the network, at this moment I'd prefer to build my knowledge of stuff I currently use.

**Kimmitmelvirm** · 12-11-2006, 07:33 AM

Red Hat, as in Linux?

I have no Linux systems on the network, at this moment I'd prefer to build my knowledge of stuff I currently use.

A+ is not very useful for a net admin, although more certs is always a plus. The big one i'd say you need is the CCNA/CCNP, followed by the MCSE. both are very important TBH.

**Progniusis** · 12-11-2006, 07:38 AM

Yea I'm leaning more towards the Cisco stuff, dont seem to hear anything bad about the qualifications. MCSE seems to have mixed reviews and from what I can see I'm above the A+ standard. But like you said, the more certificates in your portfolio the better, plus its only about £200 to complete the A+ exam.

**wepoiyub** · 12-11-2006, 07:41 AM

im currently doing my MCSE and then my CCNP.
I think the CCNP is alot better but the MCSE is always handy i guess - im a sys admin

**CedssypeEdids** · 12-11-2006, 07:49 AM

I think the CCNP would be the best after getting the CCNA. The A+ is pretty weak with basic hardware and software and Network+ for basic networking. The MCSE i think is good but doest prove really how good you are at administation. I have someone that works with me now that is MSCE, but you can tell he just studied the testking and passed the tests. He has to be one of the weakest troubleshooters I have ever seen yet has the MCSE.

**PetraCromlich** · 12-11-2006, 08:10 AM

Red Hat, as in Linux?

I have no Linux systems on the network, at this moment I'd prefer to build my knowledge of stuff I currently use.

Just something to keep in mind for the future then. It will greatly improve your marketability.

**Progniusis** · 12-11-2006, 08:37 AM

Just something to keep in mind for the future then. It will greatly improve your marketability.

Very true mate, since alot of other networks use Linux and we might venture that way with some stuff one day too. Thanks for the heads up.

11-11-2006, 10:21 PM	#1
Progniusis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	A+/N+/S+ Vs CCNP Vs MCSE Which is the most recognised qualification? IE: If applying for a job, which would be the most desired to have? I currently have a good whack of qualifications and obviously want keep moving up the ladder. Eventually I want to do Prince2 training and management stuff but until then I need more Network/Server support qualifications to keep me ticking over, which is recommended? I'm currently pricing up the Cisco stuff as I've heard the MCSE stuff is a bit overrated? ... Who has them/wants them and whats your take? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-11-2006, 10:44 PM	#2
R1king Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 650 Senior Member	ive heard that MCSE is to computers as mcdonalds is to fine cuisine Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-11-2006, 11:28 PM	#3
Progniusis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Thats what I heard, but I wouldnt mind hearing from those who have the certificate. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-12-2006, 02:10 AM	#4
Preorbtat Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	ive heard that MCSE is to computers as mcdonalds is to fine cuisine I Like that analogy, I'm gonna have to use that sometime Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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enentique Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	Which is the most recognised qualification? IE: If applying for a job, which would be the most desired to have? I currently have a good whack of qualifications and obviously want keep moving up the ladder. Eventually I want to do Prince2 training and management stuff but until then I need more Network/Server support qualifications to keep me ticking over, which is recommended? I'm currently pricing up the Cisco stuff as I've heard the MCSE stuff is a bit overrated? ... Who has them/wants them and whats your take? CCNP - Netowkring MCSE - servers Two totally different feilds... Depends on what displin you want to spec in... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-12-2006, 03:32 AM	#6
Progniusis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	CCNP - Netowkring MCSE - servers Two totally different feilds... Depends on what displin you want to spec in... I understand that, but a Network Administrator (in my eyes) should be fluent in both Networks and Servers. End of the day a Server is on a network, therefore the person in charge of that LAN should know how the network, servers and its clients work. I'm qualified upto a certain point but wanna advance even more, just not sure which one to go for... I've read the course details of both but just want some first hand experience to give their input. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-12-2006, 06:21 AM	#7
PetraCromlich Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	Might want to look int some of the Red Hat certs as well if you want to be a sysadmin. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-11-2006, 07:21 AM	#8
Progniusis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Might want to look int some of the Red Hat certs as well if you want to be a sysadmin. Red Hat, as in Linux? I have no Linux systems on the network, at this moment I'd prefer to build my knowledge of stuff I currently use. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-11-2006, 07:33 AM	#9
Kimmitmelvirm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 416 Senior Member	Red Hat, as in Linux? I have no Linux systems on the network, at this moment I'd prefer to build my knowledge of stuff I currently use. A+ is not very useful for a net admin, although more certs is always a plus. The big one i'd say you need is the CCNA/CCNP, followed by the MCSE. both are very important TBH. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-11-2006, 07:38 AM	#10
Progniusis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Yea I'm leaning more towards the Cisco stuff, dont seem to hear anything bad about the qualifications. MCSE seems to have mixed reviews and from what I can see I'm above the A+ standard. But like you said, the more certificates in your portfolio the better, plus its only about £200 to complete the A+ exam. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-11-2006, 07:41 AM	#11
wepoiyub Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	im currently doing my MCSE and then my CCNP. I think the CCNP is alot better but the MCSE is always handy i guess - im a sys admin Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-11-2006, 07:49 AM	#12
CedssypeEdids Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 692 Senior Member	I think the CCNP would be the best after getting the CCNA. The A+ is pretty weak with basic hardware and software and Network+ for basic networking. The MCSE i think is good but doest prove really how good you are at administation. I have someone that works with me now that is MSCE, but you can tell he just studied the testking and passed the tests. He has to be one of the weakest troubleshooters I have ever seen yet has the MCSE. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-11-2006, 08:10 AM	#13
PetraCromlich Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	Red Hat, as in Linux? I have no Linux systems on the network, at this moment I'd prefer to build my knowledge of stuff I currently use. Just something to keep in mind for the future then. It will greatly improve your marketability. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-11-2006, 08:37 AM	#14
Progniusis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Just something to keep in mind for the future then. It will greatly improve your marketability. Very true mate, since alot of other networks use Linux and we might venture that way with some stuff one day too. Thanks for the heads up. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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