[Wrencytet]

Right. But obviously the coverup would be more desirable to the Conservatives if they truly believe that the procurement is important. I'm pretty confident the Canadian military does.

Nobody wants a repeat of the SH-3/CH-124 Sea King replacement.

The military certainly wants the F-35 and are at the root of this scandal.

Unfortunately for the Conservatives, if they really do think the procurement is important they have just managed to delay the process by their own BS. If they planes really are needed to replace the F-18's in the time frame suggested they will have a hard time doing so now.

They well and truly botched this file.

[Uciaucrx]

I don't care enough about Canada to know the actual details of their F-35 scandal. I will say that it's not much of a scandal if they're not going to reject it, however, so they should just man up and make the smart call already.

It's going to be tough at the projected price tag. As more nations scale back their orders the price per plane keeps going up.

Iirc, we are looking to buy 65 F-35's to replace the 120 or so F-18's we have left. We are told this is the bare minimum requirement (i.e. any that crash will need to be replaced).

[attishina]

There will be considerable political pressure on the government to consider other options. Tech wise I'm not in a position to speak on the relative merits of the various planes since it's something I know little of. Cost will be a large factor though.

[hwood]

Oh, how adorable. Drake made me a nickname. Welcome to middle school, I guess.

[f6HLLFcw]

At any rate, I have seen the newspaper articles where various retired generals and think tanks deride the f-35. I also remember seeing the same articles for just about every defense program that's ever been enacted, particularly the v-22, the f-22, and the Virginia-class subs. Now all three of those are extremely successful. So I'm taking Drake's "edification" with a grain of salt.

Yes, it could be a widow-making baby murderer of an aircraft, or it could be the most advanced fighter ever built and wildly succesful. Time will tell.

[janeloveslifenow]

So I'm taking Drake's "edification" with a grain of salt.

You're free to be a tard.

[FsQGF1Mp]

I thought widow-making and baby killing were part of its intended purpose.

Good point, I meant widow-making the wrong people

[Greapyjeory]

2. He complains that the plane isn't maneuverable. That's bullshit. The thing can pull a 9g turn, which is stretching the limit human pilots can operate in anyway.

3. The F-16 can't do ground support? Oh really? Tell that to the IAF.

I imagine the Israelis would listen closely, considering he designed the F-16.

[zoppiklonikaa]

Oh, but it's completely terrible at it! You can trust me because I was one of thousands of people to work on the thing when it was developed. Forget its operational record. Listen to me spew my military wisdom literally from my armchair!

[Gscvbhhv]

Only an ignorant tard would think the F-16 (a lightweight fighter designed for dogfighting) is anywhere near as capable at ground attack missions as the A-10 (which was designed specifically for close air support).

Well it's good that I never said that. The A-10 is ****ing awesome

[paratayoma]

That was a relatively quick threadjack.

[Bbjhjxfy]

Just out of curiosity back when UNESCO recognised Palestine Canada quickly joined the US in pulling its funding of UNESCO. I thought I heard a few months later that Canada reversed its position and reinstated funding. Is that true?

[Soadiassy]

Does this mean you'll drop the ridiculous bilingual requirement for government?

[xresultsearch]

Just out of curiosity back when UNESCO recognised Palestine Canada quickly joined the US in pulling its funding of UNESCO. I thought I heard a few months later that Canada reversed its position and reinstated funding. Is that true?

You got your facts wrong.

Canada will continue funding UNESCO even though it doesn’t like the organization’s move to recognize a Palestinian state, but Ottawa will rebuff appeals for more money to make up for a U.S. cut.

Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said Tuesday that Canada will say no to new requests for voluntary funding to make up for a massive budget shortfall looming as the U.S. cuts its financial contribution to UNESCO. But Ottawa will continue to pay the roughly $10-million per year that UNESCO levies for Canadian membership.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2221537/


Harper is fanatically pro-Israel (more so than any prior PM) but the political price would have been too high for him.