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Old 08-01-2012, 01:24 PM   #1
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Default Was leonardo davinci contacted by aliens or was visited by time travellers ?
who told him about machines in the future, that inspired him to create his inventions almost a millennium ago ?

just watched something on the American version of the History channel.

I think its utter shite, but he did envision a lot of inventions we have today.

I suppose the same goes for Nostradamus, good guesses or is it that were fitting (both leo's and nostro's) today's events and their visions.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:45 PM   #2
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No and no!

Better to try arguing prescience.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:18 PM   #3
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Time travelling aliens.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:36 PM   #4
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well I think a lot of things they knew back thousands of years ago got lost due to wars etc.. People still don't know exactly how the pyramids were built (aztec or egyptian) among many other things. I think in the high valleys of Bolivia they found stone structures (Puma Punku) that were perfectly cut (tons of rock) and seems like it was done with modern machinery. People weren't stupid back in the day. We underestimate their intelligence.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:46 PM   #5
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well I think a lot of things they knew back thousands of years ago got lost due to wars etc.. People still don't know exactly how the pyramids were built (aztec or egyptian) among many other things. I think in the high valleys of Bolivia they found stone structures (Puma Punku) that were perfectly cut (tons of rock) and seems like it was done with modern machinery. People weren't stupid back in the day. We underestimate their intelligence.
yeah Ive read about that before, made with tools that if were of the period would have been impossible to produce such accuracy, also the slabs slotted and interlocked together like a giant Lego building.

I guess this is an apt quote

"There is no teacher Who can teach anything new He can just help us to remember The things we always knew"
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:10 PM   #6
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well I think a lot of things they knew back thousands of years ago got lost due to wars etc..
Untrue. If anything wars have made the scientific inventions take place.*
Most of the "modern" era science was lost because of religion. This is 100% fact.
However it wasn't fault of the Bible nor Koran. Just power hungry men abusing others in the cloak of religion.

*IE Da Vinci's tank
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:33 PM   #7
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I'm not denying that the early "official" church has caused a lot of crap unfortunately.
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:27 PM   #8
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Untrue. If anything wars have made the scientific inventions take place.*
Most of the "modern" era science was lost because of religion. This is 100% fact.
However it wasn't fault of the Bible nor Koran. Just power hungry men abusing others in the cloak of religion.

*IE Da Vinci's tank
I think you're missing his point - in wars there's the torching of conquered cities and slaughter of the people. As a result of those, and disease and climatic affects, the early orally passed on histories, traditions and information died out as the people who knew died - later, when records were made on paper scrolls, they would be burned. The classic case is the burning of the library of Alexandria (possibly accidentally).
Then there was the practice by some rulers that history started with them and who ordered destroyed any prior records - as at least one Chinese Emporer did - and others to destroy anything they didn't like or that contradicted their beliefs, etc.
Masters died before apprentices were taught their secrets, etc, and sometimes if something known didn't have a use, it may not have been even mentioned to later generations.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:46 PM   #9
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Ah, well yes that's true.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:20 PM   #10
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:11 PM   #11
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It's a load of complete crap. I imagined loads of things as a kid that only came into existence 20 years later. If one person imagines something, then loads more will have. He just had to wait longer for technology to catch up with his imagination than I did.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:21 PM   #12
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who told him about machines in the future, that inspired him to create his inventions almost a millennium ago ?

just watched something on the American version of the History channel.

I think its utter shite, but he did envision a lot of inventions we have today.

I suppose the same goes for Nostradamus, good guesses or is it that were fitting (both leo's and nostro's) today's events and their visions.
He understood the human progress and evolution.
Even in his times people made progress. He just knitted on and on and on on that capability of perception how humans 'work'.

The same did Nostradamous. But unlike DaVinci, he was less accurate and prodicted more doom like scenarios (i think?).


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New technologies are born, but when they are born or discoverd, you never know what the maximum outcome will be for a civilasation to use it. (Higgs Boson?) (Capture light with 1 trillian FPS) (etc..) I believe some Science Fiction producers have some extend in knowing so and create a movie about it.

Aliens were never here and we can't look into the future either. It's all based on the human thrive to make progress and of what is possible today. That gives us an impulse to evolve.
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:49 AM   #13
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:19 PM   #14
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who told him about machines in the future, that inspired him to create his inventions almost a millennium ago ?

just watched something on the American version of the History channel.

I think its utter shite, but he did envision a lot of inventions we have today.

I suppose the same goes for Nostradamus, good guesses or is it that were fitting (both leo's and nostro's) today's events and their visions.
Time. Wait long enough and whatever someone predicts will eventually come true.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:07 PM   #15
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It's a load of complete crap. I imagined loads of things as a kid that only came into existence 20 years later. If one person imagines something, then loads more will have. He just had to wait longer for technology to catch up with his imagination than I did.
And if you had sketched and written out, in thousands of pages of highly detailed notebooks, your conception of how machines and engineering will look 500 years from now then we might not think you're completely full of hot air.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:47 PM   #16
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And if you had sketched and written out, in thousands of pages of highly detailed notebooks, your conception of how machines and engineering will look 500 years from now then we might not think you're completely full of hot air.
Look idiot boy, I'm not saying I am particularly intelligent, I'm saying that I used to imagine things like a CD that holds hundreds of music files and cars that park themselves. If I can "see the future" then anyone can.

And take that ****ing hat off, it's getting bang on my nerves.
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:23 AM   #17
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And take that ****ing hat off, it's getting bang on my nerves.
You seem high strung lately. Why don't you take a little vacation at one of your country's fine Butlins resorts?
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