[viepedorlella]

Sometimes it's just pointless.

[SinyugiN]

You're the one who doesn't seem to understand good manners, and I'm the child?

Some of us were brought up properly.

I have wonderful manners, which is why I don't throw tantrums over whether people thank me or not, if I do something to be nice, that is as far as it needs to go, whether I am thanked or not makes no difference to me.

What you describe is not "good manners" it's an act of self gratification by proxy.

[Cabinanteerip]

They need to put those stickers lower.

Still, how can you not know how to navigate automatic sliding doors?

[nithhysfusy]

I have wonderful manners, which is why I don't throw tantrums over whether people thank me or not, if I do something to be nice, that is as far as it needs to go, whether I am thanked or not makes no difference to me.

What you describe is not "good manners" it's an act of self gratification by proxy.

If you think the done thing is to not expect to be thanked, then i'd presume you wouldn't thank them either. Therefore, not really wonderful manners in my book. Unless you are continuing your elitist attitude where by you don't need the thanks of mere mortals.

[Infiseeenvelp]

If you think the done thing is to not expect to be thanked, then i'd presume you wouldn't thank them either.

I would love for you to explain the (il)logic behind that.

I always thank people myself, I simply do not need to be thanked back. Nor do things with the expectation that someone needs to thank me for actions I myself chose to do. In fact, when people thank me, I often say that no thanks are necessary.

I wouldn't think that such a concept is so difficult to understand.

[atmowasia]

If you think the done thing is to not expect to be thanked, then i'd presume you wouldn't thank them either. Therefore, not really wonderful manners in my book. Unless you are continuing your elitist attitude where by you don't need the thanks of mere mortals.

This presumption makes absolutely no sense. Just because he doesn't expect thanks doesn't mean he doesn't offer thanks himself. What's wrong with you people? How can you let a complete stranger that doesn't say thank you when you hold a door, cause you to become such whiny little b****es. It just seems a little pathetic.

[Angeheade]

This presumption makes absolutely no sense. Just because he doesn't expect thanks doesn't mean he doesn't offer thanks himself. What's wrong with you people? How can you let a complete stranger that doesn't say thank you when you hold a door, cause you to become such whiny little b****es. It just seems a little pathetic.

It's a bit of a presumption to presume it bothers me. I'd certainly expect a thanks, but it doesn't play on my mind for a split second if I don't get one. If I really wanted to think about it, I'd presume the other person was preoccupied or something, rather than being rude.

[Scukonah]

It's a bit of a presumption to presume it bothers me.

Certainly, but not quite the stretch that your's was.

[occalmnab]

It's a bit of a presumption to presume it bothers me. I'd certainly expect a thanks, but it doesn't play on my mind for a split second if I don't get one. If I really wanted to think about it, I'd presume the other person was preoccupied or something, rather than being rude.

Then do you care to explain your ridiculous presumption?

[Lipitorseffec]

I would love for you to explain the (il)logic behind that.

I always thank people myself, I simply do not need to be thanked back. Nor do things with the expectation that someone needs to thank me for actions I myself chose to do. In fact, when people thank me, I often say that no thanks are necessary.

I wouldn't think that such a concept is so difficult to understand.

Well OK... like me you'd hold the door, and like me you wouldn't get upset to not receive a 'thanks'. I maybe presumed that not expecting thanks would come from someone who didn't give thanks. I suppose If you never hold the door open for anyone, you wouldn't really walk around expecting to have it held for you.

I think I just believe in the basic principle that i'd prefer to be treated in the same way I treat others. It's not a huge ask. I'm not needy of the recognition though.

[HaroldMY]

I think I just believe in the basic principle that i'd prefer to be treated in the same way I treat others. It's not a huge ask. I'm not needy of the recognition though.

I prefer to treat others nice, unless they are on the internet, or really piss me off, regardless of their treatment of me.

[AngelinaTheElf]

I prefer to treat others nice, unless they are on the internet, or really piss me off, regardless of their treatment of me.

I'm sure we'd all rather treat people nicely.

And personally, I like seeing their eyes light up a bit and getting a smile, more than if someone would say "thank you".

So basically, you do want recognition and to feel good about yourself for doing a nice thing. Despite you saying...

As it is, why do you need the gratitude of strangers to be happy? That seems inordinately needy, and kind of creepy tbh.

it's not about simply doing a good deed, it's all about the payoff and making yourself feel better.

Also, this is ridiculous...

It's more rude to expect that random people should kiss your ass for something you decided to do without any prompting.

It's more rude to expect thanks, than it is not to give them when someone does something nice? I'd say it's only normal to expect a thank you, but mild rudeness to not give them. Also, calling it ass kissing is blowing things way out of proportion.

[WhonyGataxott]

I'm sure we'd all rather treat people nicely.


So basically, you do want recognition and to feel good about yourself for doing a nice thing. Despite you saying...


Also, this is ridiculous...

It's more rude to expect thanks, than it is not to give them when someone does something nice? I'd say it's only normal to expect a thank you, but mild rudeness to not give them. Also, calling it ass kissing is blowing things way out of proportion.

Uh-oh, someone got butt-hurt and wants to try and save face.

No, I do not require anything, enjoying what is given is different than demanding it and getting upset if it is not there.

Sorry, but you still are wrong.

The key to understanding is to realize that getting upset if you are not thanked, is, once again, simply a way of seeking self gratification.

For example "you" want the recognition of your actions, so you hold a door open for someone...getting upset if they do not give back your "reward".

vs.

Doing something kind, just for the sake of being kind, not caring nor being upset if there is no "reward".

Demanding a reward or being upset is childish and rude, and if you don't get it, nothing I say will ever point the distinction out to you.

[xADMlNx]

Uh-oh, someone got butt-hurt and wants to try and save face.

No, I do not require anything, enjoying what is given is different than demanding it and getting upset if it is not there.

Sorry, but you still are wrong.

The key to understanding is to realize that getting upset if you are not thanked, is, once again, simply a way of seeking self gratification.

For example "you" want the recognition of your actions, so you hold a door open for someone...getting upset if they do not give back your "reward".

vs.

Doing something kind, just for the sake of being kind, not caring nor being upset if there is no "reward".

Demanding a reward or being upset is childish and rude, and if you don't get it, nothing I say will ever point the distinction out to you.

First you claim that expecting others to show good manners is "creepy", and you now you're trying to claim that doing so is "rude". You, sir, are completely out of touch with reality.

I'm not looking for "reward", I'm looking for a bit of respect.

[Greactbet]

First you claim that expecting others to show good manners is "creepy", and you now you're trying to claim that doing so is "rude". You, sir, are completely out of touch with reality.

I'm not looking for "reward", I'm looking for a bit of respect.

Not at all, I said your actions are rude and creepy, and they are.

Did you seriously say you're not looking for a reward, then immediately say you were looking for respect?

So, essentially, you fail to realize that "respect" is the reward you seek?

It's not as if it is difficult to see the relation between the two concepts.

"Respect" is the "reward" you desire.

I suggest that maybe you just go have sex or something, it's not too late for you, it might cure that inability to relate concepts you have, or just might make you a little less angry in general.

[JeremyIV]

Not at all, I said your actions are rude and creepy, and they are.

My "actions"? Expecting to be treated with respect?

Did you seriously say you're not looking for a reward, then immediately say you were looking for respect?

So, essentially, you fail to realize that "respect" is the reward you seek?

It's not as if it is difficult to see the relation between the two concepts.

"Respect" is the "reward" you desire.

I suggest that maybe you just go have sex or something, it's not too late for you, it might cure that inability to relate concepts you have, or just might make you a little less angry in general. So in your book it's ok to treat others....who have done you a favour....like ****, but if I get miffed by it then I'm the one one the wrong?

You know in years gone by it was the done thing for everyone to have good manners, and not to do so was most frowned upon. Nowadays it seems the done thing to treat everyone however you like, and some here seem to think that is acceptable.

[statistica]

My "actions"? Expecting to be treated with respect?


So in your book it's ok to treat others....who have done you a favour....like ****, but if I get miffed by it then I'm the one one the wrong?

You know in years gone by it was the done thing for everyone to have good manners, and not to do so was most frowned upon. Nowadays it seems the done thing to treat everyone however you like, and some here seem to think that is acceptable.

I give up, not because anything you makes any sense, in fact it's because you have an inability to make or see the sense of anything at all around you. I have already explained why YOU are the one being rude and why your way of doing things is far from having "good manners"...several times, in several ways.

You are too literal to explain things to, it's worse than trying to explain things to a child.

[Lhiistyssdds]

it's worse than trying to explain things to a child.

I know the feeling.

[lmHVYs8e]

Bungle, ignore him. Do you know how on some subjects you go off to bungle land and listen to zero logic? Well, he is in tinomen square. And nothing pisses off those commies more than being ignored.


That is what I call a 2 for 1

And since this is my thread.

/end thread

[duribass]

Bungle, ignore him. Do you know how on some subjects you go off to bungle land and listen to zero logic? Well, he is in tinomen square. And nothing pisses off those commies more than being ignored.


That is what I call a 2 for 1

And since this is my thread.

/end thread

Yeah, except my logic makes sense.

Anyway, you sound too calm to be zeddoo, imposter, everyone knows zeddoo's heart is filled with hatred. (for all things)