[Promotiona]

Seems you don't live in the US. That's just how it is here, autos are way more common.

Hmm that is unfortunate. I'm sure there will be some about though ? Maybe wait a bit longer until something better comes up.

[altosburg]

Surely the minority should be automatics ? There cant be that many fools that bought these new as autos as opposed to manuals can there ?!

Traffic city driving, straight wide roads, means the majority of consumer vehicles in US are auto.

[RIjdrVs3]

Traffic city driving, straight wide roads, means the majority of consumer vehicles in US are auto.

Yep. Not sure why so many Europeans find this surprising... perhaps they don't drive 60 miles to work each day?

[zueqhbyhp]

Traffic city driving, straight wide roads, means the majority of consumer vehicles in US are auto.

Yeah I see your point. For family saloons and grand tourers and big trucks etc. Then yea auto is probably the best option. But for things like imprezas, supras, RSX. And the forester i would have thought manual would have been the most common option picked, just because the owner of those types of vehicles would be buying them for the fact they weren't just using the vehicle as a high mileage long range commuting vehicle all the time.

I have personally owned a automatic bmw 850 and tbh it was perfectly suited to that car because of its GT nature, big fast A to B vehicle. But a smaller more highly strung fun car like a forester should be manual imo.

But i guess it is what it is.

[biannaruh]

When I think forester, I think "soccer mom" or close to. The reason? Because that is who I see driving them. They are just a slightly cooler "minivan" in most cases for most of US. And women here hate effort... I mean standards.

[NumStulpata]

When I think forester, I think "soccer mom" or close to. The reason? Because that is who I see driving them. They are just a slightly cooler "minivan" in most cases for most of US. And women here hate effort... I mean standards.

This is true.

[whimpykid]

When I think forester, I think "soccer mom" or close to. The reason? Because that is who I see driving them. They are just a slightly cooler "minivan" in most cases for most of US. And women here hate effort... I mean standards.

When I see one, I think about stuff like this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv2Q0F4BYSA

And how relatively cheaply it can be done.

[Rchzygnc]

Driving a manual is useless except in very few situations. Europeans need to stop justifying how awesome it is and realize it is a big waste of time.

[AdvertisingPo]

I could also understand if the vehicle was fast. The Forester really isn't that fast. It is a 6second vehicle with only 225hp. Pretty much all the V6 mid-sized sedans are as fast or faster these days.

It is there for people who don't want to hit 60 in 8 seconds or more. Get a little more kick. Even old people want some kick. Even Buick offered supercharged models back in the 90's and early 2000s.

[mynaflzak]

Driving a manual is useless except in very few situations. Europeans need to stop justifying how awesome it is and realize it is a big waste of time.

Blasphemy, you come to PA where we have hills and turns and enjoy your pathetic automatic transmission struggling to find the right gear.

[ViaxobbimeVar]

Blasphemy, you come to PA where we have hills and turns and enjoy your pathetic automatic transmission struggling to find the right gear.

Well, that depends on the auto. I like Subaru autos, with my old Legacy I loved the auto, 4:11 final drive in that car, LSD, and a much better F/R ratio for regular driving. I live in PA too, and while I love driving a manual an auto is nice around here. I'm just bummed that Subaru has kinda turned to **** recently.

[sterofthemasteool]

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...18375348&Log=0

Buy that. Don't argue with me, just do it.

I miss my SRT. Stupid woman in a Range Rover and an unsafe left turn. Bah..

[trorseIrripsy]

Well, that depends on the auto. I like Subaru autos, with my old Legacy I loved the auto, 4:11 final drive in that car, LSD, and a much better F/R ratio for regular driving. I live in PA too, and while I love driving a manual an auto is nice around here. I'm just bummed that Subaru has kinda turned to **** recently.

I've been driving a 95 Impreza Auto, I wasn't altogether disappointed, but it got a little weird on hills sometimes, it and my outback both had 4.11's, the outback was a 5 speed though.

I don't know, I just have more fun with a manual myself.

I miss the 4.11's though, my Legacy has 3.97 final drive, also with a LSD, and while I am impressed with the velocity it will hit, I'd give it up for that snappiness back.

I'd ditch my transmission but I was told it's "special", something has been done to it. Not sure what.

[voodoosdv]

Yeah, that white one is down the tube. Didn't like my offer and seems like wont go lower than $8k.

The one with $120k miles I will see about pursing and I found a Jeep Cherokee for $5.9k with 111k miles Im going to see about. That is 4x4 with the NP242 t-case.

[Gorlummm]

Yeah, that white one is down the tube. Didn't like my offer and seems like wont go lower than $8k.

The one with $120k miles I will see about pursing and I found a Jeep Cherokee for $5.9k with 111k miles Im going to see about. That is 4x4 with the NP242 t-case.

Do not buy the Jeep, be smart. You are better off without that white Subie. 120K is OKish, not great though. Subaru is still a decent brand, but they are not as reliable as they were.

[asharbiq]

I don't know why you need an SUV/cross over anyways. It's not like you get lots of snow or anything. With gas rising it would be silly to buy something to inefficient. Not to mention all those vehicles are rather expensive for the mileage they have on them.

[MasTaBlau]

Where we do go does get snow. Hitting the trails is always fun. Tons of trails around here. More cargo room is better for a family. Easier to get in and out as well as the kid. Being able to tow is a plus.
Gas really isn't much of a concern. So long as it isn't my DD. Buick gets 30mpg for my commute and road trips.

Small cars are totally out of the question. Way to tiny, generally really slow and just not much on an n/a 4 banger fan. I've looked at some Regal GS and test drove one but no luck.

[wallyfindme]

Driving a manual is useless except in very few situations. Europeans need to stop justifying how awesome it is and realize it is a big waste of time.

I suggest you learn to use the clutch when changing gear, you'll find it makes a great deal of difference to the driving experience.
As a general rule, those interested in driving use a manual, those who just regard it as a task to be made as simple as possible use automatics.

[triardwonvada]

I suggest you learn to use the clutch when changing gear, you'll find it makes a great deal of difference to the driving experience.
As a general rule, those interested in driving use a manual, those who just regard it as a task to be made as simple as possible use automatics.

Unfortunately he's right. Automatics generally make more sense these days, especially with manual shift paddle'. In Europe the majority of cars sold are diesel, this makes auto's even more apt as they have a narrow power band.

I enjoy driving a manual, but having driven a few newer auto's you can be sure this will be my transmission of choice in the future.

What differences does the clutch make these days do you think? In the real world I mean, not on a track.

EDIT: In the US, buying a manual is mainly just making unnecessary work for yourself. Do you often do that?

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Surely the minority should be automatics ? There cant be that many fools that bought these new as autos as opposed to manuals can there ?!

I have driven extensively in the US (mostly as a passenger) and there really is incredibly little point to a manual gearbox almost everywhere.

[xquFzpNw]

I have driven extensively in the US (mostly as a passenger) and there really is incredibly little point to a manual gearbox almost everywhere.

Sorry but the way you worded that makes me think of one of these. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Casdon-214-T...3038047&sr=8-1