[qwerty1]

the train was Edinburgh to Perth

using the www.thetrainline.com i get a single at £13 and a return at £15.40 , leaving at 15.30 , returning at 23.30

off peak anytime return is £19.90 - return within a month

so again 2 singles are not cheaper and this little scumbag got caught.

[kjanyeaz1]

Ignore this lot. I think you do the right thing, it's simply minimising the risk of something bad happening, which is what all parents do, picking up and dropping off your kids is not being over protective, it's being a responsible parent.

Driving your kids everywhere and never letting them go out on their own is not being a responsible parent; it's mollycoddling them, which is not good. You can't protect your child from every single risk; life is full of risks.

[Lolita Palmer]

the train was Edinburgh to Perth

using the www.trainline.com i get a single at £13 and a return at £15.40 , leaving at 15.30 , returning at 23.30

off peak anytime return is £19.90 - return within a month

so again 2 singles are not cheaper and this little scumbag got caught.

An "Off Peak Anytime" Return? It's either an off-peak ticket, or an anytime ticket; they're different things.

Oh, and I hope you don't use thetrainline for your tickets, because it's the worst place to buy them.

[G8whlTAe]

no i dont use that website for buying tickets - hardly use the train anyway.


even so an anytime return is still cheaper than 2 singles

cheap day return is £15.40

of peak return (use within 1 month) is £19.90

anytime return is £21.80

single is £13

if you add a student railcar , a return is only £1 more than a single (cheap day) with an anytime return at £14.40

so it doesnt matter the option - a return is allways cheaper on that route than a single

[joanasevilyboaz]

My original comment was concerned with pointing out your weird facination with murderers and paedophiles.

Where did you get that idea from ?

[newwebstar]

Where did you get that idea from ?

The ninja in your avatar.

[boizzones]

You can't protect your child from every single risk; life is full of risks.

Which I did actually say, I'm just doing as much as I think is correct to reduce the risks, as I see fit.

Some of you lot are coming across as very facetious when it's not a subject that is humorous imo.

These days if a parent lets their kids run riot and don't know where they are or what their doing their seen as a Bad parent, yet if a parent acts like me, then their seen as being over-protective, well rather that than wait for a knock on the door from the cops to tell me either my kids in Hospital, dead or in Jail. [rolleyes]

[GoveMoony]

The ninja in your avatar.

I actually did Ninjutsu & Kenjutsu for quite a few years, is that a crime ???

[Zenthachall]

Driving your kids everywhere and never letting them go out on their own is not being a responsible parent; it's mollycoddling them, which is not good. You can't protect your child from every single risk; life is full of risks.

Rubbish. If you think it's mollycoddling to pick up your teenage daughter, instead of letting them get the last bus home at night, you're living in lala land. It's common sense to not let your children put themselves in dangerous situations, like walking home in the middle of the night, that is a dangerous situation, an unnecessarily dangerous situation that can be avoided and should be. There is no benefit to walking home, on your own, in the middle of the night, it's not going to magically make them better people. [rolleyes]

[mikeyyuiok]

Which I did actually say, I'm just doing as much as I think is correct to reduce the risks, as I see fit.

Some of you lot are coming across as very facetious when it's not a subject that is humorous imo.

These days if a parent lets their kids run riot and don't know where they are or what their doing their seen as a Bad parent, yet if a parent acts like me, then their seen as being over-protective, well rather that than wait for a knock on the door from the cops to tell me either my kids in Hospital, dead or in Jail. [rolleyes]

So in you eyes if you let your kids outside your front door alone they'll end up in hospital, dead, or in jail? And you came this conclusion how?

Rubbish. If you think it's mollycoddling to pick up your teenage daughter, instead of letting them get the last bus home at night, you're living in lala land. It's common sense to not let your children put themselves in dangerous situations, like walking home in the middle of the night, that is a dangerous situation, an unnecessarily dangerous situation that can be avoided and should be. There is no benefit to walking home, on your own, in the middle of the night, it's not going to magically make them better people. [rolleyes]

Perhaps you missed the part where Snoopy said he never lets his kids out alone, EVER!

[Acalsenunse]

so it doesnt matter the option - a return is allways cheaper on that route than a single

A minute ago you saying that a return is always cheaper on any route. What's changed? Oh right, you realised you'd made up an opinion and touted it as fact.

[qilmuz6v]

This whole "we've got to be with our kids 24 hours a day less they end up in a shallow grave" is only a recent thing. I used to go out loads of times by myself, or with mates, when I was a kid. I used to walk to primary school by myself (granted it was only a ten minute walk), I also used to go off and play in the local park with a mate at the same age. At secondary school I used to make an hour's trip by bus to school every day by myself. This was what most kids did then. These days you get a queue of cars depositing kids outside schools every morning. No wonder child obesity is on the rise.

[AmfitNom]

So in you eyes if you let your kids outside your front door alone they'll end up in hospital, dead, or in jail? And you came this conclusion how?


Perhaps you missed the part where Snoopy said he never lets his kids out alone, EVER!

I never actually said that, I said I take them and pick them up from school and from their friends houses too, They are allowed out by themselves, and my g/f and I know Exactly where they are and in the rare occurrence that they would lie to us and we find out, then they know that they would be punished severely, My step-son only cares about 3 things, going on facebook, going on his x-box and his freedom to go out with his friends, he knows if he breaks the rules then he'll lose all 3 for at least a week, so he has never let us down, yet.

I'm quite happy for my kids to lead their own lives and if they want take controlled risks, but I'm not happy to take risks when I shouldn't need to, if you had kids, you'd understand.

[ZZChristopher]

I never actually said that, I said I take them and pick them up from school and from their friends houses too, They are allowed out by themselves, and my g/f and I know Exactly where they are and in the rare occurrence that they would lie to us and we find out, then they know that they would be punished severely, My step-son only cares about 3 things, going on facebook, going on his x-box and his freedom to go out with his friends, he knows if he breaks the rules then he'll lose all 3 for at least a week, so he has never let us down, yet.

I'm quite happy for my kids to lead their own lives and if they want take controlled risks, but I'm not happy to take risks when I shouldn't need to, if you had kids, you'd understand.

Most of what you are saying makes perfect sense, but you do seem a little bit too worried about what might possibly happen. Do you want the kids to grow up scared of their own shadow?

[tefraxKedWere]

I never actually said that, I said I take them and pick them up from school and from their friends houses too, They are allowed out by themselves, and my g/f and I know Exactly where they are and in the rare occurrence that they would lie to us and we find out, then they know that they would be punished severely, My step-son only cares about 3 things, going on facebook, going on his x-box and his freedom to go out with his friends, he knows if he breaks the rules then he'll lose all 3 for at least a week, so he has never let us down, yet.

I'm quite happy for my kids to lead their own lives and if they want take controlled risks, but I'm not happy to take risks when I shouldn't need to, if you had kids, you'd understand.

You said you drive them everywhere, and never let them make their own way anywhere, did you not?

[Rounteetepe]

You said you drive them everywhere, and never let them make their own way anywhere, did you not?

It's not 1924 any more Bungle. With the amount of cars on the road it's a much better idea to drive kids around when you can. The fear of stranger danger isn't as real as he makes out though.

[2swasseneons]

Do you want the kids to grow up scared of their own shadow?

That's not what I'm doing at all, I might be aware of the dangers, but I haven't tried to scare them by telling them that every stranger is a potential paedophile or murderer, they know not to talk to strangers and that's enough information.

I'm doing as much as I can to contain the risks, Sure I cannot foresee every situation they find themselves in, but they know enough to not take stupid risks and to call us if they ever feel uncomfortable where they are, no matter how late it is.

Back when I was a kid, it was different for me, but I lived in a seaside village in Wales and that village only had 4 kids in it anyway, I sometimes walked to school and back home again, sometimes walked along the railway too and sometimes took big risks too with other things as well, as well as staying out late, etc, etc, I pretty much put my parents through hell and sometimes didn't come home until midnight, even when I was 13 years old.

But times have changed, more people in the UK, more cars, the Internet has made so many things more accessible and the ability for "like minded" people to communicate with each other is more prevalent too, which is why parents should be a bit more careful with their children, these days.

[BakerBonce]

It's not 1924 any more Bungle. With the amount of cars on the road it's a much better idea to drive kids around when you can. The fear of stranger danger isn't as real as he makes out though.

Why is it "better"? They've got legs. What's the amount of cars got do with it?

[OlgaBorovikovva]

You said you drive them everywhere, and never let them make their own way anywhere, did you not?

To school and back and to their friends and back too, They still go out with their friends though, but We do know where they are, and like I said if they ever lied about where they went and what they did, we'd find out eventually, as we monitor both their facebook pages, and the truth always comes out eventually.

[mr.videomen]

What's the amount of cars got do with it?

Roads without Pavements ?? [rolleyes]