[ITYfl01c]

My world history knowledge sucks (its been so many years since I studied it), but I remember my professor mentioning how girls had to marry early in life and unmarried 14 year olds were considered to be too old for marriage. That was the case in western Europe some centuries ago when virginity was important. I keep wondering if that was the case only for nobility and wealthy families rather than peasants (who were probably having plenty of casual sex with each other when the doors were closed). So, erm...12 year olds have sex these days, but back in the day men were much older when marrying those 12 year olds. Were they kind of pedophiles by today's standards? So, is "pedobearism" defined by society/culture or is it irrelevant of society/culture?

[prkddfokic]

You don't seriously think the age of consent started at 18 in the US now do you?

[SigNeewfoew]

You don't seriously think the age of consent started at 18 in the US now do you?

I don't know. However, if the age of consent was lower then it only further supports my thoughts that pedophilia is defined by society. Yet, wanting little kids (just unsure which age) is pedophilia regardless of society's standards.

[soitlyobserty]

In the 1800's 12 was pretty standard. it was only the 1900's where it was raised to 16+. This pretty much the same for Europe and America.

[LomodiorCon]

I'd say your suggestion is correct, it's society, or at least the law, that sets the acceptable age for consent. BTW, in many cases, it's the female who's age is regulated and there may be nothing for males - I believe it's because of a perception that if the male was too young, he'd be unable to 'perform'.
However, while in many countries the female age may be 16, the male may be 18 for homosexual relationships.

[inhitoemits]

I'd say your suggestion is correct, it's society, or at least the law, that sets the acceptable age for consent. BTW, in many cases, it's the female who's age is regulated and there may be nothing for males - I believe it's because of a perception that if the male was too young, he'd be unable to 'perform'.
However, while in many countries the female age may be 16, the male may be 18 for homosexual relationships.

Not true, the law is pretty clear on statutory rape and it does not differentiate between the sexes. I would say that a boy is probably less likely to report a statutory rape with an older woman though.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155304/nice

[ttoothh]

It is defined more by what the basics of life are and how long it takes to learn them. Back when, when milking a cow, picking vegetables, cooking and cleaning and if you are lucky how to read/write was what it took to survive and make your way in the world... well, 12-13/whenever puberty happens makes sense, as more kids mean more hands to help and since people lived in extended families back then, much more help raising the kids.

Nowadays, you have no chance if you have a kid at that age. Your life is ruined. So, for the betterment of society as a whole, parents get peace of mind that their kids are off the market till age *x*, so that they can focus on preparing them to be effective adults without the Will's of the world knocking on their bedroom windows. That is the theory at least.

Biologically speaking, they are mature. Mentally, they are too naive to be loosed on their own.

[Lipitorseffec]

Not true, the law is pretty clear on statutory rape and it does not differentiate between the sexes. I would say that a boy is probably less likely to report a statutory rape with an older woman though.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155304/nice

It may come as a shock to you, but there are actually countries outside the borders of America - with different laws - and, in many of those countries, my statement is correct.
If you want to come over as a smartie, try reading what is written and then thinking on it, huh?
Heck, many (most) countries don't have a "statutary rape" law, but an "unlawful sexual connection" variant.

[Jxlacvio]

I there are actually countries outside the borders of America - with different laws .

Yeah but none of those really matter, do they!?

[juliannamed]

Yeah but none of those really matter, do they!?

I´d think the small minded Hillbilly´s would say,.. no.

[plogypeskelry]

It may come as a shock to you, but there are actually countries outside the borders of America - with different laws - and, in many of those countries, my statement is correct.
If you want to come over as a smartie, try reading what is written and then thinking on it, huh?
Heck, many (most) countries don't have a "statutary rape" law, but an "unlawful sexual connection" variant.

Look how pathetic you look. You get proven wrong and your only retort is "well I'm right somewhere." For a 40+ year old you are pretty childish.

[Seesspoxy]

Look how pathetic you look. You get proven wrong and your only retort is "well I'm right somewhere." For a 40+ year old you are pretty childish.

[rolleyes]

[ceagsoosy]

Were Europeans pedobears back in the day?

Yes. Then we said enough is enough and shipped them all to the Americas and Australia.

[viagsjicguara]

Look how pathetic you look. You get proven wrong and your only retort is "well I'm right somewhere." For a 40+ year old you are pretty childish.

Is that supposed to be some sort of rebuke?
Proven wrong?

Seems you're prepared to demonstate your inability for cognitive correspondence in more than one of the forums here. You're a credit to your country.

Now, try re-reading what I wrote in the posts, and thinking on them and his jibe.

I expect what confused you, and him, was that I didn't explicitly state that there are societies OUTSIDE the borders of the United States of America and they are some of those I had in mind.

[mikapoq]

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155304/nice

Hahahahah. How did I miss that episode. F'n hilarious?

















Nice.

[Hetgvwic]

Theres still some countrys that do arranged marriage of young girls are they pedo`s then?

[Bwvapays]

People used to get started early because "back in the day" they all were mostly dead by 45 years of age.

[Mjypksun]

The very high infant mortality rate and communual living - with all the family living in a single room, where they would see sex taking place and maybe being fooled around with, may also have been factors.

Down here the age of consent is 16, but some years ago one of the newspapers ran a story, with a picture of 5 generations of Maori females from one family - newly born girl to great, great grandmother - who was only 52.
You do the maths, and absolutely nothing was said about it, other than it being a supposedly 'feel good' story!
Under age sex, 14 or 15, is very rarely prosecuted and usually at the insistence of the girl's parents - may go a long way towards explaining the very high rate of underage pregnancies, mothers and sexually transmitted diseases amongst the young. It's not just a chav thing.

[Aw1HhC0m]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty

Even back in the Socrates days it was very common but many still frowned upon it.
In Ancient Rome it was normal to have sexual relations with young boys. It seems that though out history, pretty much in every culture its been common.

What was normal then is obscene to us now, its all about what society deems as acceptable.

[Patamuta]

Back in the day you married in your teens and started a family.

In today's world you're 26 and still on your parent's insurance. Possibly even living in their basement.

Oh how the times have changed.