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Old 03-09-2011, 07:16 PM   #1
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Canadians are also healthier with longer lifespans.

The knee-jerk US reaction is "but we have more blacks / mexicans!"
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:36 PM   #2
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Yeah but you see our deficit, can we afford healthcare?
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:37 PM   #3
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Score worse on diabetes and heart disease...so we're fatter than britain. Sorry, but spending more on healthcare isn't going to fix lazy people.
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:31 PM   #4
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Being fat is a decision, not a disease.
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:36 PM   #5
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Asher speaks the truth (on this).
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:57 PM   #6
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and that is vs England, probably the worst NHS in the developed world... "third world leader" US should pick on Japan, France or Germany for comparison stats...

Despite the greater use of health care technology in the US, Americans receive less preventive health care than their English counterparts. less than English counterparts, and comparing to Europe English preventative health care is abysmal.

the last one stands... and a loooooong way to go

"Whilst in some areas our outcomes may be favourable compared with those in the US, we are still clear that we have a long way to go before we achieve outcomes comparable with the best performing health systems.

US on the other hand = third world, if you are rich it's great, if you are not, your dead. enough said
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:03 PM   #7
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Do doctors live longer on average than the rest of us?

Anyone have those stats?

If regular visits to the doctor increase longevity...
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Old 03-10-2011, 01:43 AM   #8
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BS. That's not a decision - only few makes the decision "I want to be fat" - it's a "way of life".
BS. Excepting for a few issues like thyroid problems, obesity is from eating too much crap and doing too little.
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:55 AM   #9
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Yeah, but you don't do that to become fat. It's "way of life".
Huh? You decide to do everything you do.
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:15 AM   #10
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Al, you are more dense than usual. The american way of life may be to eat more than you need, but that isn't because you want to become fat, just that you want to eat unnecessary.

Well, I might be wrong - is the secret dream for americans that they get obese as quickly as possible ?
Eating crap food and lots of it is a decision. Are you saying you think in America people are forced to eat this stuff?
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:52 AM   #11
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I think Blacky's trying to say that some people are fat as a byproduct of eating too much junk. They are not choosing to be fat, the fatness is a consequence of the eating habits. (Or maybe I am more dense than usual and have misunderstood the above post). Anyway I agree with Blackcat.

Some people are fat because of some sort of genetics thingy. (Umh, yeah, I'm not a geneticist).
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:00 AM   #12
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So we remove personal responsibility with regards to one's eating habits?
No. If one wishes to stuff one's face with cream buns then one may expect to get fat. One chose the cream bun, not the fatness. The fatness would, in such a case be one's own fault even though one did not choose to grow fat.

(Umh, reminds of a very obese girl I once met who was complaining about being overweight. She was eating a large cream bun, in a gorging and gormandising manner, as she was voicing her complaints).
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:07 AM   #13
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No. Giving in to temptation mostly, methinks.
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:10 AM   #14
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Please distinguish between choices and the consequences of those choices and you will see what I mean.

Using your example, if you choose to punch a cop the consequences are that you are likely to thrown in the clink and may get a thump with the nightstick. You didn't choose the thump or the jailhouse but you did choose a decision with those likely consequences. The decision to thump the copper is the key point. Why did you do that? The jailing is then not your decision.

There are a whole range of reasons why people might eat in a way that leads to obesity. Not necessarily all due to weakness of will or stupidity or ignorance.
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Old 03-10-2011, 06:19 AM   #15
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Please distinguish between choices and the consequences of those choices and you will see what I mean.

Using your example, if you choose to punch a cop the consequences are that you are likely to thrown in the clink and may get a thump with the nightstick. You didn't choose the thump or the jailhouse but you did choose a decision with those likely consequences. The decision to thump the copper is the key point. Why did you do that? The jailing is then not your decision.

There are a whole range of reasons why people might eat in a way that leads to obesity. Not necessarily all due to weakness of will or stupidity or ignorance.
There are plenty of good reasons to eat: hunger, boredom, wanting to be the world's fattest man.
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Old 03-10-2011, 12:23 PM   #16
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Asher speaks the truth (on this).
sure thing fatty.
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:42 PM   #17
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Actually, Imran has slimmed down a bit. I remember his old pictures and he was pretty pudgy. Not anymore.

I say this as I'm looking at a picture of him in a dress.
I dread to think why...
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:12 PM   #18
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I dread to think why...
*fap fap fap*
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