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Old 12-31-2010, 11:24 PM   #21
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Well this is what "ethical collection" looks like over here.

A paid fundraiser must state:

for which charity or charities they are fundraising, or, if relevant, that they are fundraising for charitable purposes and not for the benefit of a specific charity or charities;
the proportions in which the charities will benefit (if they are fundraising for more than one charity) or how the proceeds of the appeal will be distributed to different charities (if they are fundraising for charitable purposes);
whether they are an officer or employee of a charity or connected company or trustee of such an institution and are acting as a collector in that capacity; and
that they are paid for acting as an officer, employee or trustee, or for acting as a collector.
A professional fundraiser, in addition to the above requirements, must state how their remuneration, in connection with the appeal, is to be calculated and the amount of that remuneration. http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/publications/cc20.aspx
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:35 PM   #22
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I voted for another person who I would much rather get 5000$
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Old 01-01-2011, 08:20 AM   #23
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No, he's not. I'm getting tired of ozzy turning this forum into his personal spamming grounds.
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:43 AM   #24
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Why would I want to leave, you twit? I just want to punish Ozzy for acting like a jackass and spamming us trying to get us to buy viagra and get-rich-quick schemes.

Every time I posts one of these things from now on I'm going to vote multiple times for rival participants.
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Old 01-02-2011, 07:13 AM   #25
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When they're acting like douchebags for a retarded "cause", then no.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:16 PM   #26
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"repeatedly duck" You are both an idiot and a liar. You keep getting schooled in how charities work, yet just keep moving onto a new, more ridiculous argument.

As you've pointed out yourself, all our finances are publicly available online. We are one of the most transparent non-profits in the country, so I don't know what kind of conspiracy you think is going on here. Will some of the money go to me? Sure. This may come as a shock to you, but non-profits have staff. Those staff need to pay rent and put food on the table. It may blow your mind, but when you give money to the Red Cross they use some of it to pay their staff. When you give money to a homeless shelter, they use some of it to pay their staff too. The AARP, NRA, ACLU, and any other organization out there exists only because of their staff. And those staff have living expenses. Why is this so shocking to you?

And yes, we finished in 4th. We have some pretty good evidence the other groups were cheating, so we'll see what happens once the contest starts reviewing the votes. Thanks to everyone who helped out by voting!! For those of you who didn't vote, no worries. For those of you who voted against us out of spite, **** you.
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Old 01-02-2011, 07:50 PM   #27
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You're calling me a liar, K-P? Quote the lie. Put your balls where your mouth is.
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Old 01-02-2011, 08:55 PM   #28
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Seeing as Ozzy drew the comparison between the NYRA and the ACLU, here's the ACLU accounts.

http://www.aclu.org/finances

"Management and General" expenses accounting for 7.9% of expenses.

AARP doesn't do as well- http://assets.aarp.org/www.aarp.org_...s_12_31_09.pdf

Looks like "Management and General" expenses match up to 12.6% of total operating revenues.
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Old 01-02-2011, 09:31 PM   #29
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You're calling me a liar, K-P? Quote the lie. Put your balls where your mouth is.
Typical. You make lots and lots of false claims. I demolish them and then you just move on to make other claims. All the while distorting the truth and not recognizing when you are wrong. Isn't this what everyone accuses Ben of? You're no better.

You said that I am somehow hiding how our money is spent when it is all easily available online in more detail than most other organizations out there. You care to recant your baseless accusation?
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Old 01-02-2011, 09:43 PM   #30
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Ozzie, just in case you missed my question.

How did the other groups allegedly cheat?
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:00 PM   #31
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