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Old 08-14-2011, 05:49 PM   #1
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Deobandi Fabrication on Internet
Sunday, 14 August 2011 03:50



Deobandi Fabrication on Internet



The founder of the Wahabbi sect in the Indian Subcontient, Ismail Dehalvi wrote a book in Persisn called " Iza al Haq".

The book was translated into Urdu by the deobandis and has been recently uploaded on internet.It can be downloaded fom this link



http://www.archive.org/details/Bidat...ammadIsmailr.a



Once the book is downloaded you can see that page number 76 and 77 is missing from the uploaded book.



Now the question is, is it just a coincidence or a deliberate work?



Well, the answer is , it is a deliberate work by the deobandis to hide the ugly belief of Ismail Dehlavi which is explicit on page 76 and 77 .



Page number 76 and 77 contains this passage from Ismail Dehlavi,which shows his belief :



Ismail Dehalvi writes:

“ to have this belief that Allah is free of time, location , direction and that Allah will be seen without a direction ( on the day of Judgement) all this is Biddah”.

Ismail Dehalvi says to make “tawil” of ayat e mutashabihāt is Biddah “


Since this is a pure ,unadulterated text which shows the Wahabbi belief of Ismail Dehalvi, the page containing this text has been removed from the scanned book, uploaded by the deobandis on internet.



The missing pages can be seen on this link



http://www.falaah.co.uk/refutation/w...a-ul-haq-.html





Abdullah Sabri Chishti

13 Ramadhan al Mubarak 1432

14 August 2011
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:02 PM   #2
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Get off this forum f you hate us so much and go worship your graves and act like fake sufis. The real sufis are of deoband
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:05 PM   #3
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Get off this forum f you hate us so much and go worship your graves and act like fake sufis. The real sufis are of deoband
now from where does this grave worship came here
and who r deobandi sufi ?
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:14 PM   #4
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Both of you need to get off this site, turn your computers off, fall at the feet of your Allah in ibadah during this blessed month rather than arguing and bickering over things which distract you and others from the reason why Allah created you in the first place. Grow up and focus your enrgies on becoming sufis rather than arguing which one of you are the holiest - do you see how ridiculous you both sound?
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:16 PM   #5
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Deobandi Fabrication on Internet
Sunday, 14 August 2011 03:50



Deobandi Fabrication on Internet



The founder of the Wahabbi sect in the Indian Subcontient, Ismail Dehalvi wrote a book in Persisn called " Iza al Haq".

The book was translated into Urdu by the deobandis and has been recently uploaded on internet.It can be downloaded fom this link



http://www.archive.org/details/Bidat...ammadIsmailr.a



Once the book is downloaded you can see that page number 76 and 77 is missing from the uploaded book.



Now the question is, is it just a coincidence or a deliberate work?



Well, the answer is , it is a deliberate work by the deobandis to hide the ugly belief of Ismail Dehlavi which is explicit on page 76 and 77 .



Page number 76 and 77 contains this passage from Ismail Dehlavi,which shows his belief :



Ismail Dehalvi writes:

“ to have this belief that Allah is free of time, location , direction and that Allah will be seen without a direction ( on the day of Judgement) all this is Biddah”.

Ismail Dehalvi says to make “tawil” of ayat e mutashabihāt is Biddah “


Since this is a pure ,unadulterated text which shows the Wahabbi belief of Ismail Dehalvi, the page containing this text has been removed from the scanned book, uploaded by the deobandis on internet.



The missing pages can be seen on this link



http://www.falaah.co.uk/refutation/w...a-ul-haq-.html





Abdullah Sabri Chishti

13 Ramadhan al Mubarak 1432

14 August 2011
Atleast have some Haya in Ramadhan and dont waste your time backbitting Awliya who have passed away, because if tommorow you want to do tauba, then who will you go to ask forgiveness ? anyways, if you dont like deobandis , then why waste your time debating and arguing with them. Do you have alot of time on your hand? okay i will give you an idea to better utilize your time better ,read cover to cover Ihya uloom ud din volume 3 and 4. InshAllah your time will be well spent. and when you are done then come and post us some good things you learned there, post some excerpts, InshAllah everyone on the forum will benefit from your research.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:25 PM   #6
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Both of you need to get off this site, turn your computers off, fall at the feet of your Allah in ibadah during this blessed month rather than arguing and bickering over things which distract you and others from the reason why Allah created you in the first place. Grow up and focus your enrgies on becoming sufis rather than arguing which one of you are the holiest - do you see how ridiculous you both sound?
Your intentional generalization " do you see how ridiculous you both sound?" is funny. Its just the OP who sounds to be a daft troll.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:38 PM   #7
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" feet of your Allah "
Astaghfirullah
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:46 PM   #8
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ghulamraza.

Brother can we just keep off controversial topics atleast for the holy month of Ramadan.
Its a humble request bro.
Make Dua for me.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:47 PM   #9
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" fall at the feet of your Allah in ibadah "

will u explain it
Crookedness of the Heart. Does anyone smell fitna arising soon?
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:47 PM   #10
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" fall at the feet of your Allah in ibadah "

will u explain it
Did you just assume that by "feet" I meant Allah has literal feet like you or I, astaghfirullah, I actually used that phrase because I just got done reading a poem by Hadharat Sultan Bahu where he used that phrase and it was fresh in my mind.

My dear brother Ghulam, I love you for the sake of Allah, that is why I tell you this - do not assume Im a deobandi, because Im not - I tell you this because if you or I knew the reality of things, neither one of us would waste a minute of our little presious time on earth posting fitna filled sectarian rants on internet forums - we would be in constant ibadah.

Now I know you feel its your duty to rid the world of the wahabis of deoband (which the real wahabis would be insulted by), but your post is a waste

. lets say its all true, and deobandis are deviant - how many deobandis read your post and said "well that changes everything, I am canceling my membership to deoband right away" - the answer is none because of your harsh sectarian tone.

My point is - you are wasting time and causing unnessary fitna with your Muslim brothers - not only that, you may well be slandering a scholar - did you ever personally meet Ismail dehlawi? have you asked him personally his beleifs regarding the attributes of Allah? Are you a scholar in the position of teaching others? if the answer to those questions is no - then SHUT UP!

Eat less, Sleep less, talk less - do not assume you are the most pious guy in the room, do not think you are the smartest guy in the room - be humble and recognize that just because you read a website or a pamphlet or a book, this does not mean you have the answers - think of the most pious individual you kow and think "would they post something like this on an internet forum in ramadhaan or any other month?"
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