[CoenceLomneedtrue]

is it safe to help the lower astral plane?
i was always told to stay way that it could be a danger to you.
but are we a danger to the higher astral plane ?
i think not. so how come so many say the lower astral plane is dangerous to us?
would you be seen like a messiah in the lower astral plane?
and would you be dangerous to them not knowing.
in the law of 1 everyone is of 1 life force. so if the lower astral plane is more of starting place could you passably absorb the negative entities into your self becoming 1 with them and harming your self ? is that whats bad about trying to help?
if we help the lower astral plane at the same time we will help eliminate the evil in the world.

maybe the power players in charge that last posably 10k years are spreding bad info about the lower astral plane. knowing that if we could defeet the evil from the sorce they would lose power.
or is it really true that it is dangerous.

[18holesin]

is it safe to help the lower astral plane?
i was always told to stay way that it could be a danger to you.
but are we a danger to the higher astral plane ?
i think not. so how come so many say the lower astral plane is dangerous to us?
would you be seen like a messiah in the lower astral plane?
and would you be dangerous to them not knowing.
in the law of 1 everyone is of 1 life force. so if the lower astral plane is more of starting place could you passably absorb the negative entities into your self becoming 1 with them and harming your self ? is that whats bad about trying to help?
if we help the lower astral plane at the same time we will help eliminate the evil in the world.

maybe the power players in charge that last posably 10k years are spreding bad info about the lower astral plane. knowing that if we could defeet the evil from the sorce they would lose power.
or is it really true that it is dangerous.

i can't worry about any danger that isn't unquestionably imminent because i think everything is, ultimately, safe and sound since we're light--that everything happens exactly as it's meant to--even though dave thinks it is possible for one to make a mistake even though ra says, "there are no mistakes in the law of 1..." this explains to me, though, why i "catch the clock" and "get synchronicities" so much more than he does. i doubt one will ever "defeet the evil from the sorce" considering there already seems to be perfect balance here...with every living creature instinctively doing what ever nature deems it's meant to do.

[Necedofer]

take at read on this post i made concerning edgar cacye and current times..

http://divinecosmos.com/forums/showt...gression/page8

[gvataler]

strange i was thinking of that post as soon as i seen the title of this thread.

so really we shouldnt be helping lower astral planes but the higher ones?

[massons]

so really we shouldnt be helping lower astral planes but the higher ones?

to help or not to help...what feels right to you? personally, i think 51-percent-or-more service to others sounds deceptively simple because it is. it seems to me the only thing keeping one from being 100-percent-or-more service to others, or sto, is the inability to truly see everyone as yourself...sto also stands for service to one in my book.

[quote=fear is the mind-killer. fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.[/quote]

[Markdogas]

from what i understand the lower astral planes are a part of ourselves. so by working on your own shadow side, fears, anxieties and such then you are helping the lower astral planes as well.

you can however, sort of, personify the lower realms as something outside of yourself as a tool to help lighten yourself up. like using visualizations during meditation as a tool to serve some desired effect.

for one example, a lady had a near death experience and her spirit guide took her exploring different dimensions, some of which the lower ones, and afterwards informed the lady that those scary and upsetting realms were actually a part of herself.

i have had some of the most realistic, upsetting, intense, nauseating dreams of chaos demons and other various demons but they only come to me when my anxiety is through the roof.

so, in my opinion, the answer is yes. help the lower realms. because they are you. they are your fears, anxieties and shadows that you have yet to shine light on. and be free of.

peace :

[v74ClzKY]

we all meet situations in our life, where our participation and action are obvious. i do not know of those who are feeling a calling to help specific worlds like the lower astral, but i like very much the various responses to the question.

interesting idea, that the lower astral realms are part of us. indeed, thinking of it, if we resonate in any way to them, it means that they are in us. we can only resonate to what is (in) us.

yes lovelight is the highest - and you may prefer the word god, so lovelight - my preference - can be replaced by god if you prefer. lovelight is at the same time the highest present we can offer, and at the same time our highest safety. no magical manipulation of any kind - whether directed toward a person or living being or situation in order to influence in terms of either healing or manipulating in any way, or whether to protect ourselves from them - can ever measure up with being in our centre and radiating lovelight. manipulation comes from our limited human understanding and may be mixed with low emotions and ill intention, whether conscious or unconscious. lovelight is independent from our human ego and desires. lovelight is of the highest awareness and knows by itself where to go and what to do. this being in our heart and centre takes some practice, so that it becomes a spontaneous attitude in whatever we meet. so i can imagine that to play with some energies, of which we have little or no knowlege, may be tricky. but, again, our "salvation", is centering ourselves within our heart and core, within our centre of love, within our divine being, and radiating it, radiating lovelight.