[HaroldMY]

I don't even consider VA and KY Southern states. Only from TN/NC on down.

KY, maybe.
VA, no.

[FalHaitle]

I don't even consider VA and KY Southern states. Only from TN/NC on down.

Va. was the capitol of the Confederacy. how cannot it be a southern state?

Look at the definition of border and southern states.

[Aleenkagirlla]

Since you like Wiki, feast your eyes,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason_Dixon_line



As I stated, Maryland is below the Mason-Dixon line.
Most southerners would consider Maryland a Yankee state, that's just how it is.

Your statement conflicts.
If southern states are ALWAYS below the Mason Dixon line, and Maryland is also below it - how can Maryland be a Yankee state?
Gepgrapically impossible.

DC is in its southern part ( cut out from original MD. colonial borders), but the state of Md. is STILL south of M-Dixon line as EVERY southern state is.

If you really want to be accurate it's hybrid -hence the term "border state"

[LindaSmithXV]

Va. was the capitol of the Confederacy. how cannot it be a southern state?

Look at the definition of border and southern states.

It isn't considered a Southern state by those in the South and never has been. It's considered a Yankee state. Perhaps that's technically wrong, but that is the perception. Same goes for VA.

[levitratestimon]

Are you advertising porn?

Safe sex......

[ricochettty]

[jimmy28]

Your statement conflicts.
If southern states are ALWAYS below the Mason Dixon line, and Maryland is also below it - how can Maryland be a Yankee state?
Gepgrapically impossible.

I didn't make the statement that southern states are ALWAYS below the Mason-Dixon line.
I did make the statement that Maryland was a yankee state.
Most southerners would agree with that statement.

However, had I made the statement you attribute to me, lets examine it.
"If southern states are ALWAYS below the Mason Dixon line, and Maryland is also below it - how can Maryland be a Yankee state?"
Your statement doesn't mean that ALL states below the Mason-Dixon line are southern, just that all southern states are below the line. Do you see the difference? It's subtle, but there is a difference.

DC is in its southern part ( cut out from original MD. colonial borders), but the state of Md. is STILL south of M-Dixon line as EVERY southern state is.

If you really want to be accurate it's hybrid -hence the term "border state"

[Bemapayople]

Oh for crying out loud, you're not this much of a wuss, are U?

It's going to be 33 tonight but I'm enjoying the weather. Cool and crisp at night, breezy and cool during the day. Anyway, enjoy it because it will be back in the mid-70s next week, lows in the 50s.

I can't believe you're a native Yankee! Even I wouldn't wear gloves unless it was like, in the teens and blowing. This weather is prime.

I hope you ppl remembered to bring your surfboards & pot plants in............


Late tee times for everyone else....

[CedssypeEdids]

If it's any consolation, I'm cold too.

Played golf yesterday morning in long pants and a windbreaker....it never warmed up.

I spent 32 years in Alaska, have been in Florida for 6 years (after RV'ing in the southwest for 18 montsh)............and I'm cold too.

The forecast for the week looks good though.

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AAAhhh you poor SOB Had to tee off in long pants....... Cry me a river........

That damp cold is much, much worse then dry cold.............

You ever been to San Francisco in July???? LMAO

[Rtebydou]

I'm in the process of moving out to the desert. It was in the low 90's the past couple of days.

Grew up in the hinterlands of PA. No more fucking snow.

Or rain, been here 6 weeks and saw about 5 minutes of rain so far.

[FreeDownloadOEMsoftware]

Maryland was a "border state" during the cival war, I know parts of Delaware are below the MD line -but not Maryland -my home state.

Baltimore used to have a lot of southern sympathizers, during the cival war, and of course battles in Pa, ( Gettyburg) Md. (Antietam) -not sure if any cival wars battle were in Delaware.

You can call me anything you want just not a DAMN YANKEE.

Eman is living in Maryland now, did you sell him your old house???

When I lived in that area it never seemed very southern to me........

You needed to get @ least south of Fairfax county & east or keep heading south till you past Newport News before it got very "southern" to me anyway.....

[boanuatiguali]

Yes. Maryland is below the Mason-Dixon line, and is a Yankee state.
You come from a yankee state.

LOL............. Nothing like the south when I was there..... Seemed like a big suburb of DC to me.......

[Seiblybiozy]

Your statement conflicts.
If southern states are ALWAYS below the Mason Dixon line, and Maryland is also below it - how can Maryland be a Yankee state?
Gepgrapically impossible.

DC is in its southern part ( cut out from original MD. colonial borders), but the state of Md. is STILL south of M-Dixon line as EVERY southern state is.

If you really want to be accurate it's hybrid -hence the term "border state"

I think it is a pretty interesting debate but have you or Pat ever looked @ it from a linguist standpoint??

Which I think, @ least in part is a reflection of culture & roots.......

As an example I have a friend that is from Southern New Jersey & listening to him was a bit mind boggling @ first..

I had lived in the south as well as New York City so I could clearly pick up on his "southern drawl" w/ some phraseology as well as an almost Philly kinda accent on other words & phrases.... Also I had a girl friend from there & if you heard her talk you would swear she was from West "Virginie".......lol

Also many ppl in the more rural areas of Illinois, Iowa & Ohio speak w/ more of a southern, than northern dialect... You noticed that??

[RotsLoado]

As an example I have a friend that is from Southern New Jersey & listening to him was a bit mind boggling @ first..

I had lived in the south as well as New York City so I could clearly pick up on his "southern drawl" w/ some phraseology as well as an almost Philly kinda accent on other words & phrases.... Also I had a girl friend from there & if you heard her talk you would swear she was from West "Virginie".......lol

Also many ppl in the more rural areas of Illinois, Iowa & Ohio speak w/ more of a southern, than northern dialect... You noticed that??

That's funny. I think NY accents sound good on men, dreadful on women. The Fargo/Palin accent is not appealing at all, IMO. Same with the Boston ones. I don't have an accent but if I could pick one, it would be an English one. I could listen to those all day and night.

[igs00r]

I had to look this up but it said Maryland demonstrated considerable support for the confederates during the civil war, but did not secede from the union.
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Chrysler Royal History

[Everwondopedo]

I had to look this up but it said Maryland demonstrated considerable support for the confederates during the civil war, but did not secede from the union.

EXACTLY!! -definition of a "border state"

[rujeltaoser]

LOL............. Nothing like the south when I was there..... Seemed like a big suburb of DC to me.......

different parts of MD. the DC suburbs -like PG county, Fort Washington, etc.
are now just an extension of DC -much like northern Va.

Go over to the Eastern shore, or up in the mountains of Fredericksburg/Hagerstown. -completely diffferent.

Maryland's semi motto ( for marketing) "America in miniature"
PS> Maryland accent is NOT southern, it's more like an Ohio accent.

I have absolutely no southern drawl, but i regurally say "you all"

[GWRIeEQp]

That's funny. I think NY accents sound good on men, dreadful on women. The Fargo/Palin accent is not appealing at all, IMO. Same with the Boston ones. I don't have an accent but if I could pick one, it would be an English one. I could listen to those all day and night.

I have a Southern accent.

Kind of Arkansas/Oklahoma ish.

A twang.

[Mifsnavassy]

Eman is living in Maryland now, did you sell him your old house???

When I lived in that area it never seemed very southern to me........

You needed to get @ least south of Fairfax county & east or keep heading south till you past Newport News before it got very "southern" to me anyway.....

I'm just south of DC in Fort Washington.

Not really southern.

Tough DC seemed like a sleepy Southern town until crack hit in the 80's.

[seodiary]

I have a Southern accent.

Kind of Arkansas/Oklahoma ish.

A twang.

where did you grow up? that you have a "twang?"