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Old 02-19-2010, 06:11 AM   #41
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Ovie has put Chara on his ass twice tonight. Impressive.
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:26 AM   #42
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Nice.

That Russian must be pissed.
He stormed away after his score was announced but at least came back as a good sport when they did the medal ceremony.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:36 PM   #43
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Figure skating is back.
Or is it?

The night they killed figure skating

You’re a great skater and all.
But that wasn’t Olympic champion material.
In Thursday night’s men’s free skate, Lysacek skated slow and his jumps weren’t close to the technical ability of defending Olympic champion Evgeni Plushenko.

How can you be Olympic champion when you don’t even try the quad? If you’re going to take the quad out, why not take out another triple axel and just have more of the other stuff so the International Skating Union can make it more into an “art.”
Plushenko had a great performance. His footwork was great and maybe his spins weren’t quite as good as Lysacek’s, but he had some spins that were fast. He also had a quad toe triple toe that wasn’t even attempted by anyone else. He did both triple axels, so all the jumps were there.
But the judges’ scoring was ridiculous.
Because of it, the sport took a step backward. Brian Boitano did the same thing, technically, in 1988. There are junior skaters who can skate that same program.
And the judges’ scoring probably killed figure skating because kids now are going to see this and say, “Oh, I don’t need a quad. I can just do great footwork for presentation marks and do a couple of nice spins and make it to Olympic champion.” With that type of scoring, you don’t have to risk it. You can play it safe and win gold.
In what other sports do you have to hold back in order to win?
The International Skating Union has taken the risk out of figure skating and it makes me sick.
Now, Lysacek does have quality to his skating. But when you compare it to Plushenko’s, there is no comparison.
If Plushenko was making a whole bunch of mistakes, then sure, maybe Lysacek deserves gold. But when you take the risk out of skaters’ programs, it doesn’t compute to me.
And it’s not a personal thing. I like Evan. But when you compare performances and have an outcome like this, the sport is going backward. And it hurts me to say it because I love this sport. But the judges made a mockery of it by giving Lysacek the gold.
I don’t want to rain on anybody’s parade because it’s not the skaters’ fault. It’s the system. And the figure skating community wants to control who wins and who loses. And what it does is it makes the component score more valid than the jumps so it can control whatever it wants. And that’s exactly what happened Thursday night at Pacific Coliseum.
How can the sport be put back on the right path? I have no idea. I haven’t even thought about it. It’s not up to me. Because people at the ISU obviously seem to know what they’re doing. Well, they think they know what they’re doing.
For me, the outcome on Thursday night was disappointing.
A few more thoughts on the men’s free skate:
• I thought Daisuke Takahashi was awesome. He tried the quad and he had the guts to go for it, and he should’ve been ahead of Lysacek in that aspect.
Johnny Weir was great. He should’ve been higher than sixth – above Patrick Chan, who was fifth. Weir outskated Chan. He might’ve skated a little bit slow but he went out there and did his stuff. I feel bad for him.
• People say I’m hammering certain skaters. I’m not. That’s why I’m telling you that Weir skated great and should have been higher. Source
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:54 PM   #44
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As usual fell asleep b/4 the main skaters started, wil have to watch it On Demand tonight. I like figure skating, and am in the camp that would like to see more Artistry in the sport rather than random skating around between Big Jumps. It is called Figure Skating after all, not Ice Gymnastics.
The big problem still w/ this and many of the other Olympic Sports (Gymnastics, Freestyle Skiing, etc.) is there is still too much subjectivity, especially among the commentators like whomever Bambino quoted above. Everyone can see something different based on their expectations coming in.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:59 PM   #45
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As usual fell asleep b/4 the main skaters started, wil have to watch it On Demand tonight. I like figure skating, and am in the camp that would like to see more Artistry in the sport rather than random skating around between Big Jumps. It is called Figure Skating after all, not Ice Gymnastics.
The big problem still w/ this and many of the other Olympic Sports (Gymnastics, Freestyle Skiing, etc.) is there is still too much subjectivity, especially among the commentators like whomever Bambino quoted above. Everyone can see something different based on their expectations coming in.
I expect nothing from it. Figure skating is the only sport in the Olympics that I won't watch.
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Old 02-19-2010, 02:23 PM   #46
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Or is it?



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Did that Russian guy write this?
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Old 02-19-2010, 02:33 PM   #47
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I expect nothing from it. Figure skating is the only sport in the Olympics that I won't watch.
I pretty much am in agreement. I can't stand the subjectivity of it.
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