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Old 12-27-2011, 11:11 AM   #1
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I need some advice pitbull lovers. I have a two year old male Pit that has always been extremely loving and friendly. Till about 6 months ago my sister went to give him a friendly kiss and he lunged for a bit to her face. He got one good bit before I screamed, then he stopped, put his head down and walked away. He was fine after that event had happen till today. Last night he got a cut on his foot, my whole family checked it out and it wasn't to bad. We think he might have stepped on a small glass sliver. I got off work and I had heard he was cut so i went to check it out myself, I have always been the one that checks out any wound he might have and he has been fine with me. Well i got close to him and for some reason he started shaking so I backed off for a while. I then returned a few minutes later and went to give him a head rub and a kiss and he lunged at my face, he didn't really get me to bad. I didn't hit him or anything i just yelled when he lunged. Three hours later I go to pet him again and he freaks out and bits my hand. He got my figure really bad his tooth penetrated my skin really deep close to the bone. I freaked out and slapped his face out of reaction. When i did he growled at me and tried to bit me again. This is the only time i have hit my dog... Whats going on? what should I do? Have i raised him wrong? Advice please. I really don't want to think that I might have to put him down his my boy and he has always been fine with everyone in till recently...
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:22 PM   #2
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It could be from being hurt, or some other health problem. If its a sudden attitude change I would consult a vet and see if there is anything medically wrong, if there isnt this dog needs to be put down. Pit bulls are not in any way shape or form allowed to be Human Aggressive.
Thats about as bad a fault in this breed as you can get.

Just my personal opinion, but if my dog did this without being provoked as you say, I would have had him put down right away. I know my dog, and even with his foot completely split open and gushing blood he never even looked at me when I examined him, thats how these dogs are supposed to act. It sounds like you have an extremely unstable dog, I would keep him away from everyone and let him relax and calm down, then take him to the vet as soon as you can. If there is no reason medically for him to be acting like that, do your family, everyone who could possibly come in contact with him, the breed and your dog a favor and humanely euthanize him, there is no place in this world for a HA pit bull.

I wouldnt blame yourself, if he has been fine for those years and just now acted out I doubt you raised him wrong, some dogs much like some people can be wired wrong, or just lose it one day. If its not medical, its probably genetics, and there isnt much you can do. For safety just keep him away from everyone until you get to a vet to check him out or put him down.
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:34 PM   #3
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Oh hell... Dingdingding! Let round- wait,anyone been keeping track?
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:47 PM   #4
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oh boy all hell is going to break loose.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:23 PM   #5
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LOOK I was nice! Lol I didnt just go from zero to PUT THE MAN BITER DOWN! Yay me!!
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Old 12-27-2011, 03:06 PM   #6
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Has anyone besides me noticed that PBC is constantly getting these first time or new posters with bite /aggression issues?

I mean honestly, you hardly ever see it on the other pit bull forums, and it's equally rare on the general dog forum I frequent...is there some sort of internet filter directing people here??????

To the OP...the first scenario...simply sounds...weird. Something is missing. Either the dog gave her an open mouthed, exuberant kiss and accidentally caused a bite (I have been on the receiving end of a "toothy" kiss; and my friend's bully has tried to knock me unconscious giving me a kiss)...or there is additional info we are not privy to. A dog does not go into an unprovoked aggressive frenzy, try to eat your face and then immediately stop and look cowed because someone screamed. It just sounds...off. I am not saying that that isn't how you perceived the interaction...but this is the great thing about invoking a behaviorist...they can see the dog first hand, observe it's behavior, and take an hour or 2 going over with you in minute detail every possible factor and contingency that could have been in play.

As to the second situation...some dog's will react when in pain. The whole family checked out the dog's foot. Maybe by the time you got to him his foot was sore from everybody messing with it. Maybe he was just done with everyone messing with his foot and wanted to be left alone. He was shaking, it was clear he had had it at that point. Then you got in his space again...and the lunge was to tell you to back off. Is it good that he did that? NO. On the other hand, I don't know how badly his foot hurt and how aggravated he already was from the rest of the family checking it out...and I don't know how else he would ask for a little private time not being messed with.

3 hours later again freaking and biting your finger badly...again sounds...like we are missing details. However given that you are describing this as new, "out of the blue" behavior...I would say, you have to start with a vet check first to rule out medical issues and get his foot treated. Second I would say, contact a behaviorist or a very knowledgable trainer and have someone actually look at and interact with the dog in question; preferably someone who realizes that it's important to obseve the dog in your home and to see how the dog and your entire family interacts.

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Three hours later I go to pet him again and he freaks out and bits my hand. He got my figure really bad his tooth penetrated my skin really deep close to the bone. ...
I just wanted to add that with a bite that severe you will definitely need medical attention. Even if your tetanus is up to date, you will likely need antibiotics. You must have soaked through allot of bandaids.

When you go to the ER you'll need to report a dog bite and the dog will need to be quarantined. Some places let you do it in your home...depends.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:45 PM   #7
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OR... you can save a whole LOT of money; skip the ER, go to a family practitioner or just soak it in epson salts and otherwise keep it wrapped up. And replace the dog with one that is bullet proof (solution = dirt nap).

I don't care how hurt the dog is, or how in "his space" you get, a stable apbt would never snap at his owner. first, there is no such thing as "his space", it's my space and he just lives in it. And second, who here hasn't had a dog with a serious injury that you messed with several times without your dog flinching?

that's, of course, just another way to go.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:56 PM   #8
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That would be very scary to have any dog lunge at your face. You should take your dog to the vet, tell them what behaviors your dog is exhibiting. I know you dont want to hear "dog needs to be PTS" but you must think of your safety and the safety of others.
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:57 PM   #9
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Has anyone besides me noticed that PBC is constantly getting these first time or new posters with bite /aggression issues?

I mean honestly, you hardly ever see it on the other pit bull forums, and it's equally rare on the general dog forum I frequent...is there some sort of internet filter directing people here??????

To the OP...the first scenario...simply sounds...weird. Something is missing. Either the dog gave her an open mouthed, exuberant kiss and accidentally caused a bite (I have been on the receiving end of a "toothy" kiss; and my friend's bully has tried to knock me unconscious giving me a kiss)...or there is additional info we are not privy to. A dog does not go into an unprovoked aggressive frenzy, try to eat your face and then immediately stop and look cowed because someone screamed. It just sounds...off. I am not saying that that isn't how you perceived the interaction...but this is the great thing about invoking a behaviorist...they can see the dog first hand, observe it's behavior, and take an hour or 2 going over with you in minute detail every possible factor and contingency that could have been in play.

As to the second situation...some dog's will react when in pain. The whole family checked out the dog's foot. Maybe by the time you got to him his foot was sore from everybody messing with it. Maybe he was just done with everyone messing with his foot and wanted to be left alone. He was shaking, it was clear he had had it at that point. Then you got in his space again...and the lunge was to tell you to back off. Is it good that he did that? NO. On the other hand, I don't know how badly his foot hurt and how aggravated he already was from the rest of the family checking it out...and I don't know how else he would ask for a little private time not being messed with.

3 hours later again freaking and biting your finger badly...again sounds...like we are missing details. However given that you are describing this as new, "out of the blue" behavior...I would say, you have to start with a vet check first to rule out medical issues and get his foot treated. Second I would say, contact a behaviorist or a very knowledgable trainer and have someone actually look at and interact with the dog in question; preferably someone who realizes that it's important to obseve the dog in your home and to see how the dog and your entire family interacts.

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I just wanted to add that with a bite that severe you will definitely need medical attention. Even if your tetanus is up to date, you will likely need antibiotics. You must have soaked through allot of bandaids.

When you go to the ER you'll need to report a dog bite and the dog will need to be quarantined. Some places let you do it in your home...depends.
Spot on. And yeah, I kind of noticed the sudden influx of dog bite threads....
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:31 PM   #10
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I also think there is something missing from the story of the first bite and that the second bite was in response to being in pain and being messed with.

Have my dogs been in pain? Yes. Have they acted aggressively when I treated them or too them to the vet to be treated? No. But I would allow that some dogs just do not handle pain well.

Contact a reputable behaviorist and then have him evaluated. If the behaviorist says put him down, do it.
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:49 PM   #11
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I also think there is something missing from the story of the first bite and that the second bite was in response to being in pain and being messed with.

Have my dogs been in pain? Yes. Have they acted aggressively when I treated them or too them to the vet to be treated? No. But I would allow that some dogs just do not handle pain well.

Contact a reputable behaviorist and then have him evaluated. If the behaviorist says put him down, do it.
I guess I'm not real good about taking things at face value. I admit it, I always wonder if things went down exactly the way the OP reports (not singling out this OP, just talking in generalizations); or if the situation is exactly as presented in type.

For example, I've taken a few nips. Nothing major. Nothing I would actually call "a bite". Accidental nips like "Oops that's my hand not the toy"!! and a few corrective nips from a previous dog (not a pit bull) that I failed to train properly. Nips that broke the skin and a time or 2 bled quite a bit. However if I ever took a bite "almost to the bone" I don't imagine I'd be on the computer looking for advice before going to get medical care because anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that a serious puncture wound (to the bone) from an animal is highly susceptible to infection and needs treatment.

So God forgive me, I admit I'm skeptical.
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:50 PM   #12
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Put the dog to sleep, no question about it or someone will get seriously hurt. Sorry.
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:26 AM   #13
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Even if they are hurting most of the time a stable dog won't bite. They'll flinch, roll around, try and shy away from you, crawl under shit and who knows what else but most of the time they don't bite.
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Old 12-28-2011, 04:10 AM   #14
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Even if they are hurting most of the time a stable dog won't bite. They'll flinch, roll around, try and shy away from you, crawl under shit and who knows what else but most of the time they don't bite.
This.

I cleaned up a dog the other day who has a bite history. I got to a wound that was kind of nasty on his side, and it clearly hurt him. He didn't bite, but he grumbled and swung his head around and I called it quits.
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:40 AM   #15
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I feel like someone is sending all the trolls their way.
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:48 PM   #16
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Guys I wasn't gonna say this but Jojo my SBT just threw a switchblade knife at me and it's sticking out of my chest. What ever should I do now? Any advice?
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:52 PM   #17
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Give me the knife! I love switchblades. As far as the dog,I would probably post about it on every single dog-related website until someone tells you what you want to hear.
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:53 PM   #18
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Billy - I'd have the dog do it again and video tape it this time. Coolest trick ever!!
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:55 PM   #19
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Guys I wasn't gonna say this but Jojo my SBT just threw a switchblade knife at me and it's sticking out of my chest. What ever should I do now? Any advice?
Now see THAT's something I can believe!

My advice is to stop aggravating the poor dog and don't leave sharp objects lying around (you're the human, you should know better).

Problem solved. NEEXXT!
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:58 PM   #20
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Thanks guys!!! You guys give the greatest advice ever!!

And I'm the stupidest person ever coming on here to ask this type of advice when I know the answers as to what I should do.
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