[lisualsethelp]

So as it turned out, Gator broke his collar (and he had a nice $30 buckle collar, not a snap on) and then chewed through Bambi's dog pen and bred to her. She had three puppies last week (first litter), one caught pneumonia and didn't make it past the second night, but the other two are healthy as can be.So now I have two RE/OFRN & Redboy puppies, cute as a button; it wasn't in my plans to breed her anytime soon but I couldnt ever bop'em upside the head like some people would do.Will post pictures soon!

[ppaelkos]

Oh wow, what broke on his collar? Where did you get it from, Just so I know, Cuz I DEF. dont want to be getting a collar from there and take a chance like that!

Was ur female in heat?

[exhibeKed]

My brother's dog ate through a wire crate, a bathroom door and then a wall to get to his female when she went into heat. With a determined male, whatever precautions you have taken...double them!!!

Glad the surviving pups are doing well. You didn't realize she was pregnant in time to do a spay-abort?

[aliceingoogs]

What you have are 2 culls. There were also things that could have been done long before them things were born. A shot can be given right after the breeding, there is also shots that can be given @ around the 30 day mark. Irresponsible ownership doesn't mean they had to continue with the pregnancy.

[Xzmwskxn]

Pics of the babies please.

[Aswdwdfg]

Can;t wait to see the pics!. Are you keeping the pups?.

[lisualsethelp]

Keeping the puppies until they're old enough to rehome, I've already found them good homes, and spay abort? No, I did think about taking her to get an abortion but I couldn't bring myself to do it with me being pregnant I felt it would be bad karma.Also, I got the collar from the co-op, it's a heavy duty collar, so I didn't thi k he would bust the actual buckle. It wasn't irresponsible ownership, and it's slightly aggravating to always see people insulting one another on this site. The puppies will be taken to the vet before rehomed, and the homes have already been checked out and approved. I took precautions chaining Bambi up INSIDE a dog pen, I didn't know Gator would bust his collar and chew a dang 2ft hole and get her, she was about out of heat by then. Please y'all, this site is supposed to be bringing dog owners together, not having patronizing dog owners jump down everyones throats.

[CaseyFronczekHomie]

What you have are 2 culls. There were also things that could have been done long before them things were born. A shot can be given right after the breeding, there is also shots that can be given @ around the 30 day mark. Irresponsible ownership doesn't mean they had to continue with the pregnancy.

This.^^^

Bad karma my ass. If anything you'd have done that poor dog a favor.

And I hate to be an ass and assume, but let me guess, when you say she was just about out of heat, she was about to be done bleeding?

[Aswdwdfg]

She made a mistake, it happens, christ. At least she's found a wonderful home for both dogs. Yes, she could have spay aborted but everyone has there own beliefs. Good on you for at least finding them great homes already.

[exhibeKed]

Can you at least say you have learned your lesson about horny male dogs and are having her spayed as soon as she is done nursing?

[CaseyFronczekHomie]

Or building a damn raised kennel.

[lisualsethelp]

Anyways, despite all the criticism thank you, Tahlz, these puppies are going to be in good homes for working purposes and I'll be able to check up on them routinely.And yes bad karma, really, that's what I believe, you may have done it differently, but not everyone thinks like you. So sorry we disagree on that, I'm starting to see why people have been saying that this site ain't very useful thanks to know-it-alls who assume everyone else is an idiot other than themselves.

[exhibeKed]

Umm, if you have 2 intact dogs and end up with an oops litter, you are pretty much admitting to being an idiot.

Just do the world a favor and fix one or both dogs so you don't breed any more mutts.

[CaseyFronczekHomie]

Umm, if you have 2 intact dogs and end up with an oops litter, you are pretty much admitting to being an idiot.

Just do the world a favor and fix one or both dogs so you don't breed any more mutts.

Yeah, if my inexperienced ass can keep 2 intact dogs apart with one in heat, anyone can.

[lisualsethelp]

First off, my dogs aren't mutts, they're both pure bred whether APBT or Ambully, I can get papers on them but I personally don't care for papers since I'm not showing them and use them for hunting purposes. Secondly, my "breeding" as you so called it was planned, so thank you for making more ignorant assumptions. I would understand calling them mutts if my Ridgeback/APBT bred to her, but I neutered him to prevent more mixes. My "mutts" are being sold as working dogs for $150 to good homes out in the sticks, for people who are serious about working dogs, not showing or papers. $150 for a mutt, must be one hell of a mutt. I've been offered plenty of money before to breed my dogs but chose not to

[Aswdwdfg]

I am sure she planned on her dogs collar breaking.. I don't see her being an idiot, the collar broke, it happens. Equipment breaks. I am a huge believer in Karma and I see it happen. So, how old are the pups now?.

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I have no problem with the whole dogs being bred when it comes to hunting. Many hunters do it, depending what they need. How often do you go hunting with your dogs?.

[CaseyFronczekHomie]

People offering money for mutts doesn't mean diddily. I get an offer at least once a week from some jackasses who would throw me at least $500 to breed any of my big douche dogs to theirs.

[lisualsethelp]

Pffffffffff---Yeah, if my inexperienced ass can keep 2 intact dogs apart with one in heat, anyone can.

And yes it would've been easy to keep them apart if I could've kept her inside during her heat, but seeing as our house in my bf's name, she wasn't letting that happen. There's no point in carrying on a conversation when so many condescending people want to jump down your throat.Y'all enjoy criticizing me and blah blah blah. At least I know my dogs are taken care of and was able to find my pups good homes rather than giving them to someone for fighting purposes or anything else

[exhibeKed]

APBT being bred to an Am Bully is a litter of mutts, period. So, you found homes for these 2? Great. Now go read my rant thread about a dog from my brothers accidental litter, Petey, that went to a good home until things changed and how hard it was for me to find a place for him to go.

You still haven't answered my question. Are you spaying her or hoping to make a few bucks from the next time they "accidentally" breed??

[lisualsethelp]

I am sure she planned on her dogs collar breaking.. I don't see her being an idiot, the collar broke, it happens. Equipment breaks. I am a huge believer in Karma and I see it happen. So, how old are the pups now?.---------- Post added at 10:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:49 PM ----------I have no problem with the whole dogs being bred when it comes to hunting. Many hunters do it, depending what they need. How often do you go hunting with your dogs?.

They're almost a week old, they're healthy little things too. I'm excited to see them go to their new homes and see how they turn out.My bf and I used to go hunting more often before but my big belly makes it hard to walk in the woods. Gator and Buckshot are my best catch dogs, Buckshot trails too, but Gator catches like a mother----. Bambi is still on little hogs but she's getting better, and Jade is retired now as a couch potato she was another good catch dog.Out here no one breeds for papers or anything, we just care that the parents have proven themselves for their jobs and that's that. We're from the woods, we hunt and work with dogs, that's how they prove themselves not by the show ring.I do have a chinamen female, Jade, papered with awesome bloodlines