[traithJah]

hey i was reading some news and check this out

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/349...ml?index=1&c=y



Child badly bitten by pack of pit bulls



This dog is not a pit bull .LOL. this is a prime example of the bs that the media has on bite reports

[HugoSimon]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa9wVDTPo64&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Pit bull attack commentary[/ame]

it is a commentary about the pitbll attacks, in which he mentions two American Bulldog attacks, two Pitbull mix (which is also not certain, they never say what it was mixed with, in most cases a cane corso or fila brasilero (bred for the size) which are guard dogs, or it could be a mix of dogs that could have nothing to do with pitbulls) and he only mentions one actual Pitbull attack

[HugoSimon]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvI7oFQ763k&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Pit bull attacks a husky[/ame]

the news coverage shows the dog portraying a pitbull (which doesn't look anything like a pitbull) with the title Pit Bull Attack

[HugoSimon]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEvM4qTPAdI&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Diana Furtado attacked by pit bull[/ame]

the dogs look like American Bullies, but that could be argued, they still fall under the "pitbull" category

[HugoSimon]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2LNkOBfrVA&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - 9 year old boy stops pit bull attack with hands[/ame]

American Bully

[HugoSimon]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEVZ7P-JsEk&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Pit-bull mix attacks 2 children[/ame]

pitbull mix...

[HugoSimon]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD1HrTlvy00&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Pit-bull attacks 10 yr old boy[/ame]

doesn't look anything like a pitbull, an american bulldog, or boxer mix

[HugoSimon]

I love this one
pitbull mixes

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXKUpnMkKNw&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Chris Friesen attacked by pit bull mixes at Christmas[/ame]

on the side note it says:
"Police have located the two pit bull mixes believed to have attacked him. Charles Monnier scared off the pit bull mixes when he heard the victim's painful cries for help. The mixed dogs were half Staffordshire Bull Terrier and half Maston or American Bulldog, dog services officials said. "

I looked up the story and guess what
http://www.dogsbite.org/blog/2008/12...lalla-man.html

"The two dogs suspected in a Christmas attack on Christopher Friesen will be euthanized. A resident spotted the dogs days after the attack, trapped (or dumped) inside the building foundation of a former lumber mill. The dogs were described as highly aggressive. Authorities are now calling the dogs American Bully-mixes, which is a modern breed line derived by breeding the American Pit Bull Terrier to the American Staffordshire terrier.

In plain English, the attacking dogs were pit bulls.Several well-known bloodlines for the American (Bully) Pit Bull Terrier are the Gotti line, Razor's Edge and the Blue line. The American (Bully) Pit Bull Terrier is not recognized by the ACK or UKC. They appear to be recognized only by the American Bully Kennel Club."

[HugoSimon]

again pitbull mix
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yxhw2UlQTw&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - 4 year old boy attacked by pit bull mix[/ame]


a bullterrier falls under this "pitbull" definition
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJgTJ0mkP70&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Zurich county (canton) bans pit bulls part 1[/ame]


90 pound pitbull?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcPHeUpmm3I&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Father rescues daughter from pit bull mix attack[/ame]



titled pitbull attack, reported pitbull mix attack, looks like a mix
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTjkTw7mf8M&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Katya Todesco killed by pit bull[/ame]


130 pound pitbull? huh?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9kMD_1_PWk&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Pit bull mauls boy, 30-day hospital stay[/ame]

[Qrhzbadu]

Hey all,

While I have a an undying passion for APBT's, I share that same passion for motorcycles. I belong to a motorcycling forum as well and the issue of "Pit Bulls are dangerous" blah blah came up. I made the comment about how the media can call any mutt or pit bull look alike a pit bull and they want some proof of when this has happened.

I tried searching through the threads but couldn't find anything. If anyone can give me a link to a "pit bull attack" story where it wasn't actually an APBT, I would really appreciate it.

Some people are just too stubborn and I know I might be wasting my time arguing with them, I'd still like to make my point. Thanks for the help everyone and I hope everyone and their pups are doing well!

-Mike

[Wr8dIAUk]

There was a Presa Canario attack back in the 90s in San Fransisco. The news stations originally labeled them pitbulls.

It's also good to keep in mind that the pitbull population in the US is estimated to be between 2 and 8 million. Each year about 15 of them are involved in dog bite fatalities. So, at worst there is about a 1 in 130,000 chance that any particular pitbull will kill someone this year. It's actually a much better risk than other breeds such as Chows, Rottweilers, and German Shepards, where the risk is around 1 in 50,000.

[Qrhzbadu]

Thanks Luke!

[traithJah]

You can try posting this on your other forum. And explain to them how , very few people can accurately determine a dogs breed.

Just tell them to take these test and find which dog is the real apbt. (Test includes some similar looking dogs to apbt's)


http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Fin...pitbull_v4.swf


Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull


and this test

Find The Pit Bull
Find The Pit Bull 2

and this test

findpitbull_v4



"Dog Bite Statistics are unreliable sources of information regarding the "viciousness" or dangerousness of breeds for the following reasons:

1) Very few people can accurately identify dog breeds.

2) Breeds are not listed individually, but rather under group headings. For instance, under the heading "pit bull", you will find no less than 3 distinct breeds, mixes of any of those three breeds, any dog that appears to be one of those breeds, plus any misidentified dogs. And make no mistake, dogs get misidentified all the time. There is a case of an Akita attack that was reported as a "pit bull attack" in the media. This author's dogs have been mistaken for Boxers, Bulldogs, and yes, one was even mistaken for an Akita. Just about any Pit Bull owner can tell you of many cases where their dog has dealt with a case of mistaken identity.

3) Bite stats take into account only reported bites.

4) Bite stats do not take into account the dogs of a specified breed who do NOT bite. No one knows the overall percentage of Pit Bulls who bite compared to, let's say, the percentage of Dalmatians or Golden Retrievers who bite.

5) Bite stats do not list "provoked" bites that occur at grooming shops and veterinary offices. If you took a survey of groomers and veterinarians, I'm sure you'd find an overwhelming majority of them would tell you that the small, "cutesy" dogs that people generally hold as harmless are the dogs that give them the most trouble. This author is an ex-groomer and can attest to the fact that the big dogs, particularly the Pit Bulls, and other similar breeds, are by far the most cooperative.

6) Bite stats DO list the truly provoked bites, i.e. dogs who have bitten after being teased/harassed/abused. "


- THE REAL PIT BULL--Your online source for American Pit Bull Terrier info!


And explain to them that these dogs are one of the few breeds that were bred NOT to bite any humans what so ever. They couldnt or they would be Dq'd in dog fighting matches. And that they are "america's nanny dog"

and that a apbt, Popsicle sniffed out the biggest cocain bust in US history . And we have a SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAM


http://www.forpitssake.org/sar.html

also find some good apbt videos from youtube to show em if you want.


And in the American Temperment Testing Society, statistics listed that American Pit Bull Terrier's, were all in the 82 percentile. Meaning 80+% Of these dogs did better then other breeds of dogs that were tested. They are in the top 5 out of 200+ dog breeds. Go to ATTS - American Temperament Test Society, Inc. - Home and look at the results.


GL convincing them that these dogs are not vicious. and that its crappy breeders and iresponsible owners. You will need it. Ignorant people are hard to convince, but possible.

[secondmortgages]

I know this isn't too relevant, but I did think it was extremely interesting. I'm doing psychology research on filicide (children murdered by their parents) and found out that:

* In 1995 the U.S. Advisory Board on Child Abuse and Neglect estimated that nearly 2,000 infants and young children die each year from abuse or neglect. (1)

There are about 30 dog fatalities a year. Even if half the number was from pit bulls (it's not, it's more like 2.5-3) , a child is 133 times more likely to be killed from a parent than a pit bull.

If we used real numbers, which is 3 pit bull fatalities, it's 667 (lol, did not mean that) more likely.

Also note that pit bulls are THE most popular dog. The number given earlier, I think 2 million, is extremely modest.

[Qrhzbadu]

Thanks so much folks!