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**TorryJens** · 11-15-2005, 11:26 AM

Mideastern states are largely the creations of the west. Synthetic maps that threw together disparate groups. And as a result you saw tribal or clan influences exerting one group to dominate or wipe out another. You see this in Iraq today which has suffered an endless series of coups and dictatorships all the way back to the 1920's. Similarly Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Algeria and so on. All have experienced wave after wave of civil war, coups etc from internal not external forces regardless of how much pressure the west applied to keep whomever in power. Likewise in Iran by the way.

So were you to remove these strongmen what you'd see is successive dictatorships, civil anarchy, theocratic monarchies or Marxist states. You are of course free to choose whichever of those you think is best.

11-15-2005, 11:26 AM	#3
TorryJens Join Date Nov 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	Mideastern states are largely the creations of the west. Synthetic maps that threw together disparate groups. And as a result you saw tribal or clan influences exerting one group to dominate or wipe out another. You see this in Iraq today which has suffered an endless series of coups and dictatorships all the way back to the 1920's. Similarly Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Algeria and so on. All have experienced wave after wave of civil war, coups etc from internal not external forces regardless of how much pressure the west applied to keep whomever in power. Likewise in Iran by the way. So were you to remove these strongmen what you'd see is successive dictatorships, civil anarchy, theocratic monarchies or Marxist states. You are of course free to choose whichever of those you think is best.
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