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Old 09-04-2012, 08:30 AM   #1
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Default 'Twittergate' affair. (Lewis revealed a telemetry sheet over the social network)
F1: Rival Teams To Study Hamilton Telemetry - Horner
McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh has hinted Lewis Hamilton is lucky to avoid an internal punishment as the result of the 'Twittergate' affair.

The 2008 world champion is believed to have been scolded behind closed doors for publishing a highly-confidential telemetry sheet to his million Twitter followers.

Some paddock insiders believe it's the tip of the iceberg as Hamilton wages "war" with the British team over his unsigned 2013 contract.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:34 AM   #2
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"From what I understand it was car data, and if it was car data then I'm sure every engineer in the pitlane is having a very close look at it," said Horner.

I doubt it was that revealing that other teams will learn much from it... just an easy opportunity to unsettle Lewis for the next race methinks.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:48 PM   #3
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The bones of this story have already been picked over elsewhere.
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:35 PM   #4
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Rival teams to study the telemetry? Does anybody else think that sounds like a bluff? What can they get from a track like Spa which would be any use? Unless they hope it's identical for next year of course. I somehow think the teams are trying to put the wind up mclaren with this and making out it's a little more juicy than it actually was.

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Old 09-04-2012, 03:35 PM   #5
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In anger of being outqualied by his teammate he revealed secret from his team. It was unforgivable and moore.

Itīs about trust.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:51 PM   #6
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In anger of being outqualied by his teammate he revealed secret from his team.
What secret would that be? He revealed nothing that couldn't be found out by other means.

Paddy Lowe- "The information on there is available via normal routes anyway," he said. "Most teams will have a way of finding out the information in there.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:11 PM   #7
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you do have to ask is it not like spygate ?
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:14 PM   #8
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you do have to ask is it not like spygate ?
Hahaha!!
I think obtaining detailed CAD drawings of sensitive components is a little different to posting a picture of a telemetry sheet. You could ask if its like Spygate, but you'd be laughed at I'm sure.

Lewis was stupid in regards to taking his frustration out in this way, but McLaren have dealt with it and no exclusive data was given away. No its not even in the same league as Spygate.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:35 PM   #9
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Stupid of Lewis,to even think of doing this,it was also HIS choice what downforce he ran in Spa and no one elses.The fact that Bunsen decided to run a low downforce,and it worked for him,and well done to him.Lewis needs to get his head down and race as hard as he can,and show McLaren that he can win this years championship and stop being a spoilt brat ,other wise I could start supporting the Spaniard,and I dont mean PDR !
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:50 PM   #10
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The drivers don't make the decision what package they use, its done as a collective. Button's RE got a round of applause after qualifying for his part and it was a job well done on that side of the garage. Jenson dominated and deserved the praise for his part. Lewis and his team made a mistake and read the data wrong it seems. Its happens and Lewis handled the failure wrongly. I don't think there is any question about his thurst for success and his determination to win the championship. His foolish twitter outburst just highlights how passionate he is to win IMO, and this blip will no doubt by firmly behind him heading into Monza.
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:38 PM   #11
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Itīs about trust. Which team will trust a driver who reveal such secrets to all and everyone.

All development of the car will from now on lay on Buttons shoulders.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:02 AM   #12
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I am sad to see that the Lewis fanboys so desperately defend even his silliest moves. I think that this outburst again highlighted the burning arrogance of this young man, who always thinks that he is highlighted to win everything. In F1 most of the drivers have to believe that they are the best, but I am simply disgusted from Lewis. A fast driver, but a petty and unpleasant human.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:08 AM   #13
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Doesn't it seem there was far too much distance between the two cars , in terms of lap times ?
It seems there's enough to have been a wet/dry set-up difference , yet nobody , including Lewis , has mentioned it .
So , how could they have gotten it so far wrong ?

Was Button magic here , or was there something fishy going on during contract time ?
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:24 AM   #14
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F1boat. That post is below you. Stop with the Fanboy nonsense and point out where anyone has agreed this was a clever thing to do. It was stupid but no big deal. That's all.

As for Lewis personally, I know you have never met him which is why your ignorance can be excused but really????
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:25 AM   #15
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I am sad to see that the Lewis fanboys so desperately defend even his silliest moves.
Why do you have to be so derogatory when addressing fans on here? Which Hamilton fans have excused this? I myself have suggested it was stupid and so have the others. Once again you've been called out. And what qualifies you to say he's an unpleasant human? Don't you think thats a massive overreaction to something so trivial?

I think you post is disgusting and shows a complete lack of class. I agree with Knock-on its beneath you.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:30 AM   #16
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Doesn't it seem there was far too much distance between the two cars , in terms of lap times ?
It seems there's enough to have been a wet/dry set-up difference , yet nobody , including Lewis , has mentioned it .
So , how could they have gotten it so far wrong ?

Was Button magic here , or was there something fishy going on during contract time ?
Interesting conspiracy theory

Surely it's as simple as what's already been stated, they had no dry running on Friday and the difference between the old and new rear wings was greater than they expected. McLaren have had some unsuccessful attempts at upgrades this year, just unfortunate for Lewis that the one his side of the garage decided to pass on turned out to be a really good one.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:31 AM   #17
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Interesting conspiracy theory

Surely it's as simple as what's already been stated, they had no dry running on Friday and the difference between the old and new rear wings was greater than they expected. McLaren have had some unsuccessful attempts at upgrades this year, just unfortunate for Lewis that the one his side of the garage decided to pass on turned out to be a really good one.
It wouldn't be the first time that a team worked at manipulating a contract negotiation .

The rest of the teams should be worried about the pace of Button .
Spa is a long track , so perhaps it is a little exaggerated , but he was into the distance at the start , without any DRS help for the whole race .
While he was in clean air , it is also logical to assume he wasn't pushing , so as to run the one-stop .
So , presumably , he could have gone faster .

McLaren is not a team that usually gets it this wrong .

We should remember that the old configuration of the wing really wasn't so bad , and that he was on the rough pace of the rest .

It just seems to fit perfectly , that they could use the opportunity to split them , with the added benefit of having Lewis on the back foot in negotiations worth million$ .
In fact , that they didn't just say they wanted to split the strategies seems fishy in itself .

Lewis twittering the sheet is a "not my fault" kind of reaction , so he must have felt he was being seen as responsible , and wanted to clear it up .
It shows that he feels that he got some bad advice .

It's probably a good thing , in a way , that Lewis's race ended where it did , for if he had had to battle through , it might have underlined further how bad that advice actually was .
It sure would have been fun to watch , though .
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:36 AM   #18
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This thing has been way overhyped. At the very worst all that information will do for the competiton is serve as a reference to validate the sonic analysis that all teams already use to know what the competition is up to. It's still a dumb move by the Boss
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:12 AM   #19
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I think it's been blown out of proportion. If anything Hamilton was probably trying too hard to give his followers (which number nearly 1 million on Twitter) a bit of behind the scenes info, something McLaren seem much more willing to do recently than compared to previous years when everything was top secret. Just look at all the slightly tongue in cheek adverts they've been doing with Vodafone etc, trying to be a more accessible fan-friendly team.

And as has been pointed out, what is that telemetry going to tell the other teams that they don't know already? It's one lap around one circuit, hardly enough to start drawing conclusions from. Any rival team member worth their salt will already know the McLaren inside out from just watching them! If he'd taken a photo of the inside of the engine bay or something then I might believe these conspiracy theories..
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:00 AM   #20
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I wonder if Lewis has been losing fans and ostracizing his crew in the paddock. I'm no longer a fan of Lewis Hamilton because his last outburst, placing sensitive information on a bleepin' Twitter tweet, has got me shaking my head. I did like his personality when he exploded onto the scene in 2007, but 5 years later and that's all gone.

Lewis has been surrounding himself with bad people. I think it's a case of young love in that Nicole S. has Lewis in the palm of her hand. Ever since she's been in the garage Lewis has been erratic, caring more about his reputation by hanging out with big wigs than his racing, and lost to a teammate ever in his F1 career.

The guy is amazingly fast, but his head just isn't in the right place. Lewis' management team is awful too! I'm not too sure as to why Lewis hasn't gone back to his father because Anthony Hamilton really kept the trash outside the door and kept Lewis focused on racing. I want the old Lewis Hamilton back in F1. Today's Lewis is confused, downtrodden, and misdirected.

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