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girlsround 09-21-2008 02:53 AM

American's Rights
 
Freedom of speech

Every other right is meaningless if you can't complain your rights are being violated.

alfredtaniypnx 09-21-2008 03:15 AM

Dirty stinking commie. http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif

doogiehoussi 09-21-2008 03:24 AM

6th... cause you can have all the other rights you want, but if you can be thrown in prison indefinitely without trial anyways, it doesn't do you much good to have rights.

lodsemelf 09-21-2008 05:48 AM

Christians didn't have freedom of speech. They didn't have guns. They did it anyway. I'll stay with my pick.

tgs 09-21-2008 07:36 AM

They did it for both reasons. Certainly the one you advocate as well. No state sponsered government made mandatory. It allows atheism.

rikdpola 09-21-2008 09:16 AM

I'll go with "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"

The 10 you are thinking of were added almost as footnotes and many Founders didn't want them added because they felt they were restrictive.

MzTT 09-21-2008 11:15 AM

What CO said.

Illirmpipse 09-21-2008 01:57 PM

The right to get bailed out by gov if you're bankrupt http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/cute.gif

DumErrory 09-21-2008 03:27 PM

Rufus, you numbnuts, that's my point.

Got anything else to run your mouth about? I can ask that question. Freedom of Speech.

triarmarm 09-21-2008 06:29 PM

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Rufus, you numbnuts, that's my point. My point is that Christianity has flourished without freedom of religion. That was your point too? Then why do you value it more than any other right? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/confused.gif

SoOW2LeA 09-21-2008 06:53 PM

I think the difference is that Sloww would like to be a Christian and not be targeted for it. Christianity has flourished even when under fire, but that doesn't mean Christians like to be under fire. I think the goal is to live in peace with what you're doing, as in your way of life.

Appenianags 09-21-2008 07:25 PM

I said that they're all important from the very first. Pekka understands what I'm saying.

glasscollector 09-21-2008 09:12 PM

I don't really care about freedom of speech, and certainly not freedom of religion or any other right wing freedom.

All I care about is the right to live comfortably and safely.

jacknates 09-21-2008 09:34 PM

Originally posted by Elok


That's nice. Now get back in your cage, we'll put more pellets in your bowl shortly. Elok, I'm not talking about living like that. You don't know me very well, do you?

I want a nice place to live. I want transportation, time off from work, entertainment, healthcare and other things that everyone else wants. You could say I'm materialistic, but I have no desire to profit off of the misery of others, so I don't feel inferior for my desires.

Patabeamn 09-21-2008 09:40 PM

Ok, now to some UnAmerican rights please.

Reafnartefs 09-21-2008 09:47 PM

Depends who's outside. Haven't you seen those zombie movies?

corkBrobe 09-21-2008 09:50 PM

I thought only right wing zombies. Like those evil right wing freedoms.

THOUTHCAW 09-21-2008 10:16 PM

Originally posted by BeBro
I thought only right wing zombies. Like those evil right wing freedoms. "Left wing zombies" doesn't make sense to me. I associate right wing with eating people brains.

yovbQVpD 09-21-2008 11:14 PM

Originally posted by Kidicious
"Left wing zombies" doesn't make sense to me. I associate right wing with eating people brains. You're wrong, they have far too much contempt for brains to ever eat them.

Mjxhnapi 09-21-2008 11:55 PM

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


Sloww, you numbnuts, Christians haven't had freedom of religion for most of the history of Christianity; I suspect most still don't have it, or live in places that still don't have it. Clearly, it's a largely irrelevant right, by your own metric. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif

Freedom of speech FTW. I think that they are basically the same right...

However, I will note that Christianity currently mostly just flourishes in the first world in places which have traditionally had freedom of religion.

I think it is because of the corruption/etc that was found so commonly in the European state/religion relationship.

We religious people in the US would do best to keep the state and religion clearly seperated...

JM


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