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Old 09-21-2008, 02:53 AM   #1
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Default American's Rights
Freedom of speech

Every other right is meaningless if you can't complain your rights are being violated.
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Old 09-21-2008, 03:15 AM   #2
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Dirty stinking commie.
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Old 09-21-2008, 03:24 AM   #3
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6th... cause you can have all the other rights you want, but if you can be thrown in prison indefinitely without trial anyways, it doesn't do you much good to have rights.
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:48 AM   #4
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Christians didn't have freedom of speech. They didn't have guns. They did it anyway. I'll stay with my pick.
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:36 AM   #5
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They did it for both reasons. Certainly the one you advocate as well. No state sponsered government made mandatory. It allows atheism.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:16 AM   #6
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I'll go with "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"

The 10 you are thinking of were added almost as footnotes and many Founders didn't want them added because they felt they were restrictive.
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:15 AM   #7
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What CO said.
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Old 09-21-2008, 01:57 PM   #8
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The right to get bailed out by gov if you're bankrupt
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Old 09-21-2008, 03:27 PM   #9
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Rufus, you numbnuts, that's my point.

Got anything else to run your mouth about? I can ask that question. Freedom of Speech.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:29 PM   #10
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Rufus, you numbnuts, that's my point. My point is that Christianity has flourished without freedom of religion. That was your point too? Then why do you value it more than any other right?
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:53 PM   #11
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I think the difference is that Sloww would like to be a Christian and not be targeted for it. Christianity has flourished even when under fire, but that doesn't mean Christians like to be under fire. I think the goal is to live in peace with what you're doing, as in your way of life.
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:25 PM   #12
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I said that they're all important from the very first. Pekka understands what I'm saying.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:12 PM   #13
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I don't really care about freedom of speech, and certainly not freedom of religion or any other right wing freedom.

All I care about is the right to live comfortably and safely.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:34 PM   #14
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Originally posted by Elok


That's nice. Now get back in your cage, we'll put more pellets in your bowl shortly. Elok, I'm not talking about living like that. You don't know me very well, do you?

I want a nice place to live. I want transportation, time off from work, entertainment, healthcare and other things that everyone else wants. You could say I'm materialistic, but I have no desire to profit off of the misery of others, so I don't feel inferior for my desires.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:40 PM   #15
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Ok, now to some UnAmerican rights please.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:47 PM   #16
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Depends who's outside. Haven't you seen those zombie movies?
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:50 PM   #17
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I thought only right wing zombies. Like those evil right wing freedoms.
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:16 PM   #18
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Originally posted by BeBro
I thought only right wing zombies. Like those evil right wing freedoms. "Left wing zombies" doesn't make sense to me. I associate right wing with eating people brains.
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:14 PM   #19
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Originally posted by Kidicious
"Left wing zombies" doesn't make sense to me. I associate right wing with eating people brains. You're wrong, they have far too much contempt for brains to ever eat them.
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:55 PM   #20
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Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


Sloww, you numbnuts, Christians haven't had freedom of religion for most of the history of Christianity; I suspect most still don't have it, or live in places that still don't have it. Clearly, it's a largely irrelevant right, by your own metric.

Freedom of speech FTW. I think that they are basically the same right...

However, I will note that Christianity currently mostly just flourishes in the first world in places which have traditionally had freedom of religion.

I think it is because of the corruption/etc that was found so commonly in the European state/religion relationship.

We religious people in the US would do best to keep the state and religion clearly seperated...

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