[Bonioners]

No,you can see the last several turns he was just trying too hard and slamming the brakes on mid or late turn because he couldn't hold the bad angles he was going in to the turns on.

yeah you can see he was struggling to keep up, then he got behind and tried to make it up but it went badly wrong. simply a bad driver.

Good thing it was Japanese and not a real car.

I take offence!

[Bymnbypeten]

he was just trying too hard and slamming the brakes on mid or late turn because he couldn't hold the bad angles he was going in to the turns on.

he was probably steering one handed like a **** and it came back to bite him in the ass

I agree, that was pretty evident.[yes]

[plantBanceper]

speaking of GT-R's and crashes....



I almost understeered into one 10 minutes ago..... in the rain.


(an R32 that is...)

[Lapsiks]

People that can't drive, drive these cars... ridicolous!

[PoideAdelereX]

Good thing it was Japanese and not a real car.

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[ingeneensueva]

I call it Karma. It's a shame about the car though, I loved it when I saw it on Top Gear.

[bp9QxekG]

Likely a result of a bad driver, on unfamiliar roads, driving way too fast.

But if he hadn't been following the EVO he might have got away with it, as he was forced to use dipped lights in order to not blind the camera, at the speed he was doing, on those sharp bends, you will come a cropper, simply because you can't see the road ahead or which way the road bends.

[lrtoinbert]

Serves the idiot right for driving like a **** on public roads! [rolleyes]

[DiatryDal]

But if he hadn't been following the EVO he might have got away with it, as he was forced to use dipped lights in order to not blind the camera, at the speed he was doing, on those sharp bends, you will come a cropper, simply because you can't see the road ahead or which way the road bends.

Actually one of the most sensible (or possibly only) suggestions for a cause. Granted, still means he was driving beyond the conditions, which is silly / a bad decision (as most others have implied).

[bp9QxekG]

I know several "tricks" for advanced driving since I've attended a course or two.

One of the ones that the Police Pursuit drivers use, especially the motorcyclists is to look at the verges and/or hedges on the roads edge, as they are a great visible indicator of how sharp a bend is, A road can seem quite gentle on some corners, but by looking at the edge of the roadside their are plenty of visible indicators that will show how much sharper a bend is than the road will normally show.

High Hedgerows, trenches, trees (even trees visible in the distance) can all give an indicator of how a road is progressing, long before the road will show you.

Spent many years on a motorcycle "getting my knees down", so I know all the tricks to driving into and out of corners at high speed and anticipating the road and bends ahead.

That, and one of my best mates when I was younger was a Advanced Police motorcyclist, His was the job of chasing down the speed junkies in their souped up motors and Bikes.

They love the Welsh roads cos of all the lovely sweeping bends.

[Badyalectlawl]

I know several "tricks" for advanced driving since I've attended a course or two.

One of the ones that the Police Pursuit drivers use, especially the motorcyclists is to look at the verges and/or hedges on the roads edge, as they are a great visible indicator of how sharp a bend is, A road can seem quite gentle on some corners, but by looking at the edge of the roadside their are plenty of visible indicators that will show how much sharper a bend is than the road will normally show.

High Hedgerows, trenches, trees (even trees visible in the distance) can all give an indicator of how a road is progressing, long before the road will show you.

Spent many years on a motorcycle "getting my knees down", so I know all the tricks to driving into and out of corners at high speed and anticipating the road and bends ahead.

That, and one of my best mates when I was younger was a Advanced Police motorcyclist, His was the job of chasing down the speed junkies in their souped up motors and Bikes.

They love the Welsh roads cos of all the lovely sweeping bends.

Seems you're lucky to still be alive - verges, hedges, telephone poles, etc, can be very misleading as cambers affectt he apparent radius of the bends, hedges and telephone poles don't always follow the road and may short cut sections, etc.

I can assure you that you may know some dodges but not "all" and they won't warn you of gravel, manure, damp patches, decreasing radii, vehicles on your side of the road ( I hope you're not using the oncoming lane as well) etc.

However, I am with you regarding the open countryside with good visability which allows you safely attack the nice corners and undulating surfaces. Got a fair few down here as well - used to be a lot more of them as gravel surfaces as well [thumbup]

[Mediconlinee]

Give it another 500 miles and the tranny would have broke anyway... [rofl]

[rofl] That's the truth!

[Riprincattiva]

[rofl] That's the truth!

Nissan... the new DSM...

[DiatryDal]

That evo has some mad acceleration.

[bp9QxekG]

Seems you're lucky to still be alive - verges, hedges, telephone poles, etc, can be very misleading as cambers affectt he apparent radius of the bends, hedges and telephone poles don't always follow the road and may short cut sections, etc.

I can assure you that you may know some dodges but not "all" and they won't warn you of gravel, manure, damp patches, decreasing radii, vehicles on your side of the road ( I hope you're not using the oncoming lane as well) etc.

However, I am with you regarding the open countryside with good visability which allows you safely attack the nice corners and undulating surfaces. Got a fair few down here as well - used to be a lot more of them as gravel surfaces as well [thumbup]

I wouldn't say I'm lucky to be alive, although the Amount of crazy Volvo drivers I've encountered in my 12 years of motorcycle riding probably numbers into the 1000's.

I've been driving cars since 1997 and had one accident in all that time and that was at 5mph, when I shunted some silly cow at a junction when she pulled out then braked suddenly in front of me.

As for the looking at hedges etc to see the way the road bends and turns, I got that "trick" from my Police motorcyclist friend, fences are also a good indicator too.

As for encountering manure patches, gravel and any number of unseen dangers, well no one can anticipate dangers they haven't encountered before, And I've never ended up on the other side of the road either, I did once come off my bike, down a newly gravelled road, but the council hadn't left any signs to indicate the road had a fresh coating of gravel and my 70+mph knee down turned into a sliding up the road on my ass, Thank god for full leathers, I walked away without a scratch.

Bike was not so lucky, But I avoided most dangers, and one of the biggest ones in wales is Tractors. [cursing]

I seriously do hate farmers and their bloody tractors, I reckon most lack an MOT and probably are not fit to be on the road either, driving without lights at night is favourite trick for farmers around here.

[Enrivaanonock]

I reckon most lack an MOT and probably are not fit to be on the road either, driving without lights at night is favourite trick for farmers around here.

there is no 'MOT for tractors' so they probably do lack one... however driving round without lights is just careless and selfish - to save yourself a couple mins on hooking trailer lights up or skimping on maintenance is highly irresponsible when driving these types of vehicle

[bp9QxekG]

there is no 'MOT for tractors' so they probably do lack one... however driving round without lights is just careless and selfish - to save yourself a couple mins on hooking trailer lights up or skimping on maintenance is highly irresponsible when driving these types of vehicle

If that is indeed True, then its no wonder that the majority of tractors around where I live look like their falling apart.

Most have no lights, and some even drive their tractor on the local main carriageway that crosses the Island where I live, so their tootling along at 15 mph and you come up behind them doing 70mph, and if anyone is then overtaking you, you go right up the tractors ass, hmm! nice way to die.

I've had some near misses both on the "B" roads and on the main carriageway, in the day and at night.

My worst one with a tractor was when I was about 19, I was travelling to a friends in the afternoon, And as I came around this corner, one of several long sweeping bends, There was a tractor wedged in the road, with its trailer behind it across both lanes of the road and the tractor was parked in the entrance to a field, The only way around was to drop the bike onto its right side and to slide under the trailer, hoping I would make it under, which I did, although I lost the indicators, pedal, gear selector and level and handlegrip on that side, It could have been worse, I could have lost my head, But the trailer was parked on a really sharp bend, with no one standing about to warn traffic or any signs or zilch, If a car had come round the bend instead of me, they would not have had time to brake and would have ripped off the roof and probably their heads going under the trailer.

The farmer was some old ba$tard, of about 90 yrs old, I'm pretty sure he was half blind, cos he was deaf as a post, old sod shouldn't have been on the road, The cops told me later that he was still driving on a war licence and had never past any sort of test or nothing.

I was pretty lucky back then. [yes]