[nd90t3sf]

i still don't get it .... now how much does cox/suddenlink and msn primium cost you per month ....

I pay about $100 for a bundle of my fax line (phone), high speed internet
and tv cable (extended basic, no premium movie channels). Then I pay
about $21.95 for the MSN.

Like Lee, I used dialup MSN when I lived in the sticks before wireless of
any kind was available, so I've had it for years, and used it for business.
I just didn't want to mess with changing it when I finally moved here and
was able to get high speed. So I kept my other service. Plus I just like it.

[Roneyslelry]

That's true Kay, and lets say were in the middle of nowhere with our laptop, and all you have is a phone line... welp... we can still get online.

Ya know, MSN does offer its services with the option of not paying for the internet provider fees if you already have an internet provider... It's cheaper, but, why would I want to do that?

Besides, Kay once told me her son uses it too... wasn't that correct?

[FotoCihasWewb]

Now I'm thinking, what did we all do without the internet in the first place? Must have been a lonely world.

I got a hell of alot more done around the house and I weighed alot less

[fedordzen]

I got a hell of alot more done around the house and I weighed alot less

Yourself and I included still know you've got it. PE is just being modest as usual.

[AgindyMinnife]

Yourself and I included still know you've got it. PE is just being modest as usual.

Hehehehe, your too kind. Full of **** but too kind...lol

[angelxmagic]

MAV, we actually do the same thing. We have high-speed cable at the house and also subscribe to MSN as well. The reason? Well, we used dial up for quite sometime at the office because cable period is not available in the area. Recently we switched over to wireless provided from NetWest (our host) because we were able to retrieve a signal from one of the buildings downtown. We keep MSN as a backup just in case we still have to "dial up" due to a malfunction, which was a good idea because it did happen in January. NetWest had to switch our IP and DNS addresses and then it was all good, but still took 2 business days... and the internet is crucial. Now I'm thinking, what did we all do without the internet in the first place? Must have been a lonely world.

back up for business makes sense .... still aren't there cheaper backups than msn.

i did msn from 1994 until i switched over to cable in 5 years ago ... telephone service was so unreliable .... most issues were with the tele company not the IP.

[VDAu5p33]

Paying $20+ a month for service they will give you for less is a waste. If you have broadband via another carrier they will reduce the rate. You may have to argue with them to get it but they will do it. AOL offers it's service for FREE if you use another ISP to connect. Again you have to argue with them to get it.

[velichay]

Unless you use infra-red That's what out intelligence agencies use......

For what?
Internet access?

Maybe for transmitting text.
Accrossed the room.

Anything that uses infrared for transmitting data has to be line of site.
Not very practical as a mobile method of communication.

[effenseshoora]

back up for business makes sense .... still aren't there cheaper backups than msn.

i did msn from 1994 until i switched over to cable in 5 years ago ... telephone service was so unreliable .... most issues were with the tele company not the IP.

I'm sure there are cheaper... Our host and wirless provider is NetWest, so I'm sure they'd give us some kind of discount for dial-up. My father is in charge of the business and he likes MSN. So... there ya go.

[letittbe]

Paying $20+ a month for service they will give you for less is a waste. If you have broadband via another carrier they will reduce the rate. You may have to argue with them to get it but they will do it. AOL offers it's service for FREE if you use another ISP to connect. Again you have to argue with them to get it.

Yes, paying full price for an ISP when you bring your own access is a waste of cash. You're basically paying rent on a modem somewhere (I guess out by the airport?) that you're not using. As a matter of fact, if you're not using the ISP dial-up connectivity, I'm not sure what there is left to pay for. AOL offers everything for free now, period. I think you can still buy dial-up and broadband access from them, but they are hot to dump that stuff and just be a content provider and portal, like Yahoo. The AOL of even just a year ago is no more. I'm sure before too long Microsoft will also try to shed it's ISP side. As everybody continues to migrate to broadband, the big dial-up ISPs are going to have to find something else to do with themselves.

At the rate AOL is going, in a few months they'll be paying you to surf their site. Time-Warner is still pulling its hair out over that merger.

Anyway, if you really want a dial-up backup, why not pick up a Net Zero disk next time you're at Best Buy or Circuit City? $9 a month sure beats $21-$25. Bet there are as many Net Zero access numbers around as MSN or AOL.

[annouhMus]

And, for the sake of the topic, I have also had Suddenlink problems on occasion over the last few months, but no more than with Cox...and at least Suddenlink has the excuse of making the conversion. I have also found Suddenlink's tech support to be better, actually, than Cox's. But only time will tell. If Grande would ever get around to adding my street to their service area, I might consider switching, if only because Suddenlink's charging over $90 now for analog cable and Internet access. But right I'm usually connecting at almost 3.5 Mbps and there's no way I'd consider dumping that for DSL, so Suddenlink's about the only game in town.

[i32I7qyH]

For sure... all the providers rent the lines from other companies. That would include all the big ones, AOL, MSN, CompuServe, SBC, NetZero, People PC and so on...

Makes more sense to them, but these companies who manage hundereds of thousands of phone lines will be in trouble soon enough. Cut-backs are most likely already in process.

[Srewxardsasv]

I see after looking it up that MSN Premium offers a bundle of various utilities (anti-virus, etc.) along with access, so I guess conceivably that might be worth some extra money on top of whatever obscene amount of money somebody's paying for broadband. But it looks like MSN Premium like $10 a month if you bring your own access?? I'm still not sure what's costing over $20.

[Rwujnezq]

I'm glad that howling at the moon is still free.

[Psymoussy]

As long as Animal Planet stays on the air, who cares about all the other channels?

[nretdjuend]

That's true Kay, and lets say were in the middle of nowhere with our laptop, and all you have is a phone line... welp... we can still get online.

Ya know, MSN does offer its services with the option of not paying for the internet provider fees if you already have an internet provider... It's cheaper, but, why would I want to do that?

Besides, Kay once told me her son uses it too... wasn't that correct?

Yes, that's correct Lee. I pay for one service, but we both use it.
Since it hairlips Nline and MV so, I'll check tomorrow with MSN to see if I can get it cheaper since I have my own high speed connection already. But yes, MV, there are lots of bundled extras that I get with the MSN Premium that I don't want to give up.