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RobsShow 12-04-2010 12:50 PM

Question for Indian Users about Race?
 
I would like to ask gypsies but i dont know of any gypsy forum so i ask the next similar to gypsies (indians), YOU!

Do you consider White-Indian to be Indian? Do you consider Yellow-Indian to be Indian? Do you consider Black-Indian to be Indian? Is it all the same or is there a difference if somebody is mixed white-indian or mixed-black indian.

My opinion is that mixed white-indian can be considered indian but not black-indian mixed. I think there can be white gypsies or white indians but not black indians or black gypsies. Im 9/16 gypsy and rest balkanic/white/slavic. What do you think of me am i a proper gypsy or racially indian?

Plz answer and stay polite, Thanks

RastusuadegeFrimoum 12-04-2010 12:52 PM

My fam. You see there are indian looking ppl (racially indians) and white looking ppl. My dad is 1/4 gypsy (the white looking guy with the black hair) and the other white guy (brunette) is the husband of my mums sister.

SeelaypeKet 12-04-2010 01:00 PM

I am not indian but ive been to India and people there are very dark no matter there race. And to be honest I think they judge everything on light color. I have light skin and in their eyes if you have white skin then you are just foreign.

Aaron757 12-04-2010 01:05 PM

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I am not indian but ive been to India and people there are very dark no matter there race. And to be honest I think they judge everything on light color. I have light skin and in their eyes if you have white skin then you are just foreign.
but i dont have white skin. i have skin like a iranian or pakistani not like a european.

Lunims 12-04-2010 01:07 PM

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but i dont have white skin. i have skin like a iranian or pakistani not like a european.
Well if you go to India you will feel white at least if you go where I went in Goa. You will probably be viewed as rich just because of your skin. It is just part of the culture there from ancient times.

ROYMANgo 12-04-2010 01:12 PM

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Well if you go to India you will feel white at least if you go where I went in Goa. You will probably be viewed as rich just because of your skin. It is just part of the culture there from ancient times.
Is Goa in South or North?

Assentesy 12-04-2010 01:14 PM

More to the south but on the western side of India. It is the richest province in India per capita by the way.

OWV9LSxH 12-04-2010 02:26 PM

Non-Indians with some knowledge about India can answer too

inownsuipsy 12-04-2010 02:43 PM

your Y DNA is E1b1b1a2? so then how can you be of indian ancestry?

WaysletlyLene 12-04-2010 02:47 PM

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your Y DNA is E1b1b1a2? so then how can you be of indian ancestry?
There is no correlation between Haplogroup and Race. A negroe can be R1b, a Indian can be E-V13. Im 13% Southasian on Dienekes a little more than half of the two Romanian Samples with 25% who Dienekes believes to be Gypsies. I think so too because im 9/16 Gypsy and have the half of them so they must be pure Gypsies. Jatts have around 30% Southasian. I read a post of Dienekes that he discovered a new CSA component (Western Asian+European) which he think corresponds to ANI (Ancestral Northindian) so i wrote him a Email if he can tell me how much of that i am. Im around 20% Western Asian which is probably from my indian side too. You see im more than half Indian.

bixlewlyimila 12-04-2010 03:05 PM

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There is no correlation between Haplogroup and Race. A negroe can be R1b, a Indian can be E-V13. Im 13% Southasian on Dienekes a little more than half of the two Romanian Samples with 25% who Dienekes believes to be Gypsies. I think so too because im 9/16 Gypsy and have the half of them so they must be pure Gypsies. Jatts have around 30% Southasian. I read a post of Dienekes that he discovered a new CSA component (Western Asian+European) which he think corresponds to ANI (Ancestral Northindian) so i wrote him a Email if he can tell me how much of that i am. Im around 20% Western Asian which is probably from my indian side too. You see im more than half Indian.
I think the haplogroups can tell you alot about ancestry actually. The concept of race is just a way to tell some specific physical features nothing else. What really matters is DNA ancestry. If you got a cultural connection to India in some way then you can call yourself indian or whatever. Do you speak hindi, bengali, tamil or any other indian language?

Diortarkivoff 12-04-2010 03:12 PM

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I think the haplogroups can tell you alot about ancestry actually.
It tells gives you only a very small picture

The concept of race is just a way to tell some specific physical features nothing else. What really matters is DNA ancestry. Im talking about DNA Ancestry but haplogroups are only a very small amount of DNA Ancestry

If you got a cultural connection to India in some way then you can call yourself indian or whatever. Do you speak hindi, bengali, tamil or any other indian language? No

QEoMi752 12-04-2010 03:23 PM

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It tells gives you only a very small picture



Im talking about DNA Ancestry but haplogroups are only a very small amount of DNA Ancestry



No
Haplogroups is what tell you most of what DNA can give us today. You should buy Spencer Wells book.

TouccuraLar 12-04-2010 03:25 PM

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Haplogroups is what tell you most of what DNA can give us today. You should buy Spencer Wells book.
Autosomal tells you the most not haplogroups.

casinobonusese 12-04-2010 03:31 PM

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Autosomal tells you the most not haplogroups.
No sorry it does not. Many people are very skeptical to autosmal dna it is not scientific enough.

OixKKcj1 12-04-2010 03:34 PM

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No sorry it does not. Many people are very skeptical to autosmal dna it is not scientific enough.
If Haplogroups are the only scientific we have its really sad because they dont tell you much about your ancestry

soydaykam 12-04-2010 04:56 PM

In terms of area and population Goa is the smallest state of India also it comprises of mainly african races so it shouldn't be assumed as representative state of India.Even Mumbai which is a City is greater then Goa in area and population Goa has just 1.4 million population wheareas Mumbai has 14 Million people.

As far as InquiringMind question is concern i would humbly advise him to learn more about Indian culture and caste system before issueing such threads. there is no particular way to recognize Indianness mangoloids of north eastern states are as much as Indians as caucasians of northern states and negroids of andmaan and nicobar island.
A white can be an Indian as well as a Black. Here are some pics, all are Indians inspite of thier racial differences.
http://www.india-server.com/news-ima...shan-27043.jpg

http://www.cdnn.info/andaman_tribe_250163.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6-HGWZYSfc...n+mukesh+2.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lyr1F7ccC3.../s1600/apj.jpg

http://images.desimartini.com/user_u...e4bcabe1bc.jpg

Blotassefesek 12-04-2010 05:32 PM

The more obsessed with race, the more inferior you are. East Indians are collectively the most inferior racial and cultural group on planet Earth.

sportbos 12-04-2010 05:47 PM

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The more obsessed with race, the more inferior you are. East Indians are collectively the most inferior racial and cultural group on planet Earth.
LoL !! East indians , do u mean People of Tripura, Arunanchal, sikkim, meghalaya, manipur and Nagaland ?? How did u find them inferior and then most inferior and then most inferior on the planate earth http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/grin.gif ?

SnareeWer 12-05-2010 08:22 AM

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I am not indian but ive been to India and people there are very dark no matter there race. And to be honest I think they judge everything on light color. I have light skin and in their eyes if you have white skin then you are just foreign.
You must be in the southern part, in the Northern part many are fair skinned.


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