[Rtebydou]

Originally Posted by philo beddoe Libertarianism is a joke.

Libertarianism is a satanic menace.

Liberty comes from God. I don't believe I've ever met a "Libertarian" who believes in God and acknowledges His authority. "Libertarians" peddle the disinformation that "all rights stem from property rights," and that is absolutely not true. All rights stem from God, and God owns all things in this universe. We have the privilege to use many of these things in our lifetimes. A worldview centered on private property is parallel to one centered on ego, and Satanism is egoism. Hence, it is not unreasonable to claim "Libertarianism" is a twin of Satanism.

Most of the ideological sources for "Libertarianism" are Jewish, not the least of which is the Jewess "Ayn Rand." This is an interesting point, because I believe that the amillenial interpretation of the Apocalypse hold a key to understanding a lot of histroy since Christ. I also believe that Christ is the source of all political power. The problem is getting well meaning atheists and agnostics (and those of other religions) to be able to see that. They can see alot of truth, because a lot of what is happening does not require revelation from God to understand. But to understand the action of the beast of the apocalypse (an agency acting through the world and its institutions to with the sole mission being to destroy Christianity) does require some faith in Christ.

The issue with the property argument fundamentally is that it reduces everything to materialism. Materialism is a deception which weakens man's faith for God by substituting atoms etc. (this is not to say that atoms do not exist, but they do not define existence).

[Rtebydou]

Originally Posted by JohnQPublic
Do you see a conflict with this and much of the anti-Jewish sentiment held by members here? Do you see Larouche and Celente more as agents of the same Jewish conspiracies? Or do you see a separation based more on zionism rather than "jewishness" (whatever that is in this period)?

A few "Zionist Christians" here are even more rabid against the Palestinian people than real Jews. Try and explain that one. Does a Palestinian care whether it is a "Jew" or a "Zionist" that steals his land and murders his family? We witness no real widespread protest by American Jews against Zionist Jews. Zionist Jews own America now with the explicit or implicit help of most American Jews:

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I agree in this sense. And this leads to a much bigger issue. Let us say for the sake of argument that it is the zionists that are the problem. There are very few of them. Who carries out their plans? Who administers their policies? Everyone else does. This is the deception.

[Vezazvqw]

Originally Posted by gunDriller
one thing that LaRouche does is in his writing is to attribute the world's tribulations to British royalty, without mentioning Rothschild - or Israel. LaRouche acts in a manner that protects Israel.

Yep. There it is. Keep the distracted goyim looking "over there" while the tribe robs us blind.

Politician being the keyword here, denouncing Israel & the jew is political suicide for any of them. That doesn't necessarily mean they are siding or protecting them.

[Rtebydou]

Originally Posted by JohnQPublic What I find interesting about Larouche's organization, is that they try to make the British to be the true Jews, i.e., they blame most geopolitical and financial problems at their feet (supposedly originating from Venice). Now ther may be some truth to this, but I find it interesting that an organization made mainly of Jews is pointing to the British as the source of problems (and the history of the UK is full of Jewish interactions of course).

And of course, Larouche has been called antisemitic many times (Jeffrey Steinberg says that the solution to this in his case is that the ADL would call him a "self hating jew").

But, then on the other hand he promotes what occurred directly after the re-alliance with WWII & zionism,
Go figure?

The obvious loose alliance with all three members, Israel, U.S. & the U.K. are played off one another so as not to indicate either as guilty of the zionism which they propound daily.

I believe LaRouche is genuine in his thoughts on the matter, but is quite involved with secondary tier of European royalty. which will eventually recycle, or push communism front & center.

So we shall still grasp at the boot of those royally empowered.

Chip Berlet accuses Larouche of being allied to old facist forces in Europe. Some of the details of what Berlet says about Larouche are true. But Berlet himself does not pass the smell test. As with anything, he has an agenda, and tells some truth.

[Aqgkvwzm]

Originally Posted by General of Darkness Stop mincing words, what's the question?

"Do you see a conflict with this and much of the anti-Jewish sentiment held by members here? Do you see Larouche and Celente more as agents of the same Jewish conspiracies? Or do you see a seperation based more on zionism rather than "jewishness" (whatever that is in this period)?" La Rouche; definitely Celente; maybe
I'd have to say JBS is on the same plane as LaRouche; deflect from the joos

[Kdgjhytiy]

You say "very few of them"........come on now.......90% of all so called "jews" are a Khazar wanabe Jew.

Even in the state of Israel the 10% of the Semite Jews from the Bible are treated as a minority and at the mercy of the Zionist.......and that's why many of them comes to the US.

[Rtebydou]

Originally Posted by JohnQPublic Do you see Larouche and Celente more as agents of the same Jewish conspiracies?

Thoughts?

i talked to Chaitkin, LaRouche's history editor who is among other things a good history editor.

Chaitkin was feeding out disinfo that Zell Miller was going to stand with Alcee Hastings to stop the coronation of Bush43.

there's a legal procedure in our government where a Representative and a Senator can challenge an elector count, and raise all sorts of hell to make sure the votes are counted. Alcee Hastings from Florida stood for this and they needed a Senator.

anyway, based on those conversations, not just about Zell Miller but also about his biography, which writes the history of George HW Bush without saying a word about Israel, for sure Chaitkin behaves as if he represents Israel.

i haven't studied LaRouche enough. he went to jail for something minor, members of the Klub usually don't get sent to jail for little things.

one thing that LaRouche does is in his writing is to attribute the world's tribulations to British royalty, without mentioning Rothschild - or Israel. LaRouche acts in a manner that protects Israel. I read the Unauthorized Biography of George Bush. Overall it was a pretty powerful work. It seemed to provide evidence that Prescott Bush signed the bank papers at Union Bank of NY that released funds to the National Socialist Party allowing them to take over Germany.

I was also in Washington DC at the convention when Larouche made his first appearance after being released from jail. I was being recruited by the Larouche organization, and was told it would be really worth attending (I asked if he would be there, they could not say, and he ended up being there) . It was interesting. This occured at a period of time where I really started to understand that things were going very wrong in our country and the world. Larouche was the only publicly accessible figure at the time (that I could find) that actually seemed to have something substantial to say. What I did not like is that they were always right, and there was no other way.

I looked a Libertarianism, and even spent a lot of time talking to a local Libertarian candidate. The ideology was very simple to follow (government bad and inefficient, private markets good and efficient, society can exist without law and order- will police itself, Use shame, the Irish did it, etc., etc.). I felt it was too simple. I still think there may some good ideas in the "moderate wing" of the Libertarian party (i.e., those who call for strict adhrerence to the constitution like Ron Paul), but I think other parties may represent that better (LLike the American Constitutional Partybut they are not powerful enough to do anything).

[Rtebydou]

You say "very few of them"........come on now.......90% of all so called "jews" are a Khazar wanabe Jew.

Even in the state of Israel the 10% of the Semite Jews from the Bible are treated as a minority and at the mercy of the Zionist.......and that's why many of them comes to the US.

I meant there are very few zionists relative to non-zionists.

[Vezazvqw]

Anyone who disregards the influence of european royalty with regards to globalism, and zionist conquest is a complete moron. It is alive and very well across the entire planet.

Who knows what LaRouches real intentions are, or if he even knows fully?

But ones things for sure the "United Kingdom" needs to be sunk once & for all if not for anything but to be given a different name.

[bug_user]

Anyone who disregards the influence of european royalty with regards to globalism, and zionist conquest is a complete moron. It is alive and very well across the entire planet.

Who knows what LaRouches real intentions are, or if he even knows fully?

But ones things for sure the "United Kingdom" needs to be sunk once & for all if not for anything but to be given a different name.

rothschilds have owned the U.K. for centuries, since Napoleon's defeat at waterloo

they founded the first central bank there, the bank of england (which sired the Federal reserve)

[FoetAgerhot46]

Originally Posted by Large Sarge
rothschilds have owned the U.K. for centuries, since Napoleon's defeat at waterloo

they founded the first central bank there, the bank of england (which sired the Federal reserve)

In the post above Horn asserts that Prince Charles is the real genius mastermind and Rothschilds just stupid bookkeepers of The Crown...lol.

The part that makes it so obvious Book, is that you've fallen for Oz's smoke screen hooked nose, line, and sinker.

While a jew may be an obvious sign of zionism, I'm sorry that all other historical evidence points to European royal financers being chiefly in charge.

[educationonlines]

"Lyndon LaRouche: There are two topics which I shall address today, apart from what I shall treat, as questions come in, as I respond to those questions. The first will be on the immediate crisis. The second will be on what we do, if we succeed in installing the policy which is needed to deal with this crisis. The first part is elementary, and the second part is scientific.

Now, we have a piece of legislation, in the form of an amendment, and there's some other legislation around it, in the Congress. It's legislation sponsored by a group of leading Republicans and Democrats, who are determined that this policy of Obama's shall not go through: that the legislation, as Obama intends, will be blocked, and he will fail. And this may probably be the actual approach to the end of his run as President.

Now, what has happened is not a domestic U.S. affair—it is a domestic U.S. affair, but it's not, in nature, a domestic U.S. affair. What has happened is, the entire British system—the British system is not the British monarchy, though the British monarchy itself is a part of that system; it's the international financial system, which is under the leadership of Jacob Rothschild as an agent of the British monarchy. The core of this thing is called the Inter-Alpha Group.

Now, the Inter-Alpha Group's chief victim, officially, is the euro: All the nations which are part of the euro, are the first target of disaster. However, the controlling feature of this euro system has been, since the end of 1989, the British system. The euro system is a puppet of the British Empire. The most powerful influence in the British Empire, financially, has been centered in the group called the Inter-Alpha Group, with many different kinds of extensions, whose power is located largely among the pirates of the Caribbean.

For example, the people who own Russia today, financially, have their headquarters in the Caribbean—and they are pirates. Their offices are there. And the Russian economy is presently controlled by pirates of the Caribbean, some of whom speak Russian—for example, in Antigua, you can't get a hotel room if you don't have a Russian accent. So, that's the nature of the situation."

The above from his may 8th webcast

Been watching him closely for 8 years and his fingering of Redshield is new.