Paypal, all your money are belong to us? - DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

**uaodnabnjz** · 08-18-2006, 11:43 PM

I have a friend (no really, its not me) that has a small computer business as a side venture. Back in April he sold a laptop to someone who had a good rating via eBay. All transactions were smooth and the laptop got shipped out. Now here it is August and he gets an alert from Paypal informing him that the owner of the credit card used to pay for said laptop has filed a report saying they did not buy the item and that all the funds ($1500 and change) has been withdrawn from his bank account. This is actually the second time something like this has happened to him, luckily the first time he was able to catch the product before it left the distributor. Is there anything he can do to fight this thing? He seems to think he just needs to file bankruptcy and say the hell with it. As you could probably tell his side business isn’t doing so well. Thanks for any helpful input.

**ljq0AYOV** · 08-18-2006, 11:50 PM

Several months after?? How can you not notice this unauthorized transaction until 4 months after??? Fight it. The guy probably just wants a free laptop. [thumbdown]

**uaodnabnjz** · 08-18-2006, 11:57 PM

Thats what Im saying. Its not that he ignored the notice, he didn't get it 'til today. IMO thats grounds for some seirus WTFage.

**illetrygrargo** · 08-19-2006, 12:06 AM

Did he get good rep from the sale? If yeah, then that's grounds for fraud against you IMO.

**addyta.org** · 08-19-2006, 12:11 AM

Yeah, Paypal is retarded at times.

**AliceFromHouston** · 08-19-2006, 12:12 AM

There is always correspondation when selling/buying items online right?

Also, if he didn't buy the product, than why has he trasnferd money to your frineds paypal account?

And also, if he claims he didn't recieve the package, than it is sent with a tracking number right?

How old is person that runs this "business"???

**ljq0AYOV** · 08-19-2006, 12:14 AM

Did he get good rep from the sale? If yeah, then that's grounds for fraud against you IMO.

Ebay/Paypal only protects sellers from chargebacks if they ship to confirmed paypal addresses. What also sucks is that if the buyer comes back and files an unrecieved item claim months after leaving feedback, paypal will refund the seller unless you have confimration of shipping. Doesn't matter if you recieved positive feedback for it either. That really just sucks. [thumbdown]

**uaodnabnjz** · 08-19-2006, 12:14 AM

There is always correspondation when selling/buying items online right?

Also, if he didn't buy the product, than why has he trasnferd money to your frineds paypal account?

And also, if he claims he didn't recieve the package, than it is sent with a tracking number right?

How old is person that runs this "business"???

He's 26 I do believe. And yes, he got good rep from the sale on ebay.

**ljq0AYOV** · 08-19-2006, 12:17 AM

There is always correspondation when selling/buying items online right?

Also, if he didn't buy the product, than why has he trasnferd money to your frineds paypal account?

And also, if he claims he didn't recieve the package, than it is sent with a tracking number right?

How old is person that runs this "business"???

What paypal is saying is that the credit card used to fund the paypal transaction was used without authorization. But in that case, the card holder has had four months to report it. The fact that they're only reporting it now makes them seem even more suspicious.

**AliceFromHouston** · 08-19-2006, 12:21 AM

Oh..

thanks for the explaination. I totally got it wrong then!!

And indeed that's odd. Could be human error though, which still not make it better. I guess that guy has alot of calling/writing to do to make sure this all is not on his expense.

**LillyPlay** · 10-02-2011, 05:03 PM

Really... it can be hell, alternative solution is always there.......

Old 08-18-2006.......

**illetrygrargo** · 10-02-2011, 05:08 PM

Old 08-18-2006.......

Seems like a reeeeeeeeeeeally terrible bot. It's like he forgot to post the links to his employer [rofl]

**duawLauff** · 10-03-2011, 05:10 AM

From April to August.. suspicious indeed... or Paypal screwed up?..as ebay's policy its 60days to report (if not mistaken)..

**Stengapsept** · 11-03-2011, 01:55 AM

From April to August.. suspicious indeed... or Paypal screwed up?..as ebay's policy its 60days to report (if not mistaken)..

Protip - read all of a thread - especially the last few - before posting

**duawLauff** · 11-03-2011, 03:31 AM

Crap!...

Anyways.. i do hope mod/admin close/lock every old thread..

In a way.. its like ur asking to revive it.. lol

Cheers [help]

08-18-2006, 11:43 PM	#1
uaodnabnjz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	Paypal, all your money are belong to us? I have a friend (no really, its not me) that has a small computer business as a side venture. Back in April he sold a laptop to someone who had a good rating via eBay. All transactions were smooth and the laptop got shipped out. Now here it is August and he gets an alert from Paypal informing him that the owner of the credit card used to pay for said laptop has filed a report saying they did not buy the item and that all the funds ($1500 and change) has been withdrawn from his bank account. This is actually the second time something like this has happened to him, luckily the first time he was able to catch the product before it left the distributor. Is there anything he can do to fight this thing? He seems to think he just needs to file bankruptcy and say the hell with it. As you could probably tell his side business isn’t doing so well. Thanks for any helpful input. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-18-2006, 11:50 PM	#2
ljq0AYOV Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	Several months after?? How can you not notice this unauthorized transaction until 4 months after??? Fight it. The guy probably just wants a free laptop. [thumbdown] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-18-2006, 11:57 PM	#3
uaodnabnjz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	Thats what Im saying. Its not that he ignored the notice, he didn't get it 'til today. IMO thats grounds for some seirus WTFage. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-19-2006, 12:06 AM	#4
illetrygrargo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 429 Senior Member	Did he get good rep from the sale? If yeah, then that's grounds for fraud against you IMO. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-19-2006, 12:11 AM	#5
addyta.org Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 557 Senior Member	Yeah, Paypal is retarded at times. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-19-2006, 12:12 AM	#6
AliceFromHouston Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 506 Senior Member	There is always correspondation when selling/buying items online right? Also, if he didn't buy the product, than why has he trasnferd money to your frineds paypal account? And also, if he claims he didn't recieve the package, than it is sent with a tracking number right? How old is person that runs this "business"??? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-19-2006, 12:14 AM	#7
ljq0AYOV Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	Did he get good rep from the sale? If yeah, then that's grounds for fraud against you IMO. Ebay/Paypal only protects sellers from chargebacks if they ship to confirmed paypal addresses. What also sucks is that if the buyer comes back and files an unrecieved item claim months after leaving feedback, paypal will refund the seller unless you have confimration of shipping. Doesn't matter if you recieved positive feedback for it either. That really just sucks. [thumbdown] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-19-2006, 12:17 AM	#9
ljq0AYOV Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	There is always correspondation when selling/buying items online right? Also, if he didn't buy the product, than why has he trasnferd money to your frineds paypal account? And also, if he claims he didn't recieve the package, than it is sent with a tracking number right? How old is person that runs this "business"??? What paypal is saying is that the credit card used to fund the paypal transaction was used without authorization. But in that case, the card holder has had four months to report it. The fact that they're only reporting it now makes them seem even more suspicious. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-19-2006, 12:21 AM	#10
AliceFromHouston Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 506 Senior Member	Oh.. thanks for the explaination. I totally got it wrong then!! And indeed that's odd. Could be human error though, which still not make it better. I guess that guy has alot of calling/writing to do to make sure this all is not on his expense. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-02-2011, 05:03 PM	#11
LillyPlay Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 462 Senior Member	Really... it can be hell, alternative solution is always there....... Old 08-18-2006....... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-02-2011, 05:08 PM	#12
illetrygrargo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 429 Senior Member	Old 08-18-2006....... Seems like a reeeeeeeeeeeally terrible bot. It's like he forgot to post the links to his employer [rofl] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-03-2011, 05:10 AM	#13
duawLauff Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 617 Senior Member	From April to August.. suspicious indeed... or Paypal screwed up?..as ebay's policy its 60days to report (if not mistaken).. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-03-2011, 01:55 AM	#14
Stengapsept Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 651 Senior Member	From April to August.. suspicious indeed... or Paypal screwed up?..as ebay's policy its 60days to report (if not mistaken).. Protip - read all of a thread - especially the last few - before posting Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-03-2011, 03:31 AM	#15
duawLauff Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 617 Senior Member	Crap!... Anyways.. i do hope mod/admin close/lock every old thread.. In a way.. its like ur asking to revive it.. lol Cheers [help] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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