[ViagraFeller]

Honour killings are bad enough, but thats disgusting. How uncivilised is Turkey? The state of some peoples minds, there idea of whats right and wrong... it's a mess.

I've been through this on another message board. As much as that story might be designed to demonize Turkey and prevent it's entrance into the EU this kind of crime is Kurdish in origin and is not reflective of Turkey itself. When they are in Iraq they are Kurdish when they are in Turkey they some how become Turks.

[Hixinfineedom]

I see something new has just been given birth to. [rofl]

[Maphpseurse]

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[ssupermegatone]

I've been through this on another message board. As much as that story might be designed to demonize Turkey and prevent it's entrance into the EU this kind of crime is Kurdish in origin and is not reflective of Turkey itself. When they are in Iraq they are Kurdish when they are in Turkey they some how become Turks.

Well it might be a particular ethnic group (although I have not read that to be honest) but "honour killings" account for half of all murders in Turkey, so that's not insignificant.

[Hixinfineedom]

I've been through this on another message board. As much as that story might be designed to demonize Turkey and prevent it's entrance into the EU this kind of crime is Kurdish in origin and is not reflective of Turkey itself. When they are in Iraq they are Kurdish when they are in Turkey they some how become Turks.

I think this is a very honest article/interview about the whole matter.

http://www.sundayszaman.com/sunday/d...etay&link=3481

And its not just the Kurds, its "a cross-section" of turkish society (note: a very small one of course, I'm not saying that this reflects on Turkey and its people on a whole!). Of course these things can happen anywhere, but "honor crimes" arent exactly popular among people from western civilizations.

[brorialsibers]

And now she'll develop a stutter for life. Way to go Dad.

[AmfitNom]

And now she'll develop a stutter for life. Way to go Dad.

Chances are also there that she´ll become a slut, always looking for that attention Daddy never gave her.
Also i read a few times that women that were abused as children have a 60% (or something) higher chance of ending in Jail later on, same go´s for becoming an addict (drugs, alcohol)

Of course nothing may happen, still i think Daddy needs to be given the Taliban treatment.

[Juersdodfs]

Chances are also there that she´ll become a slut, always looking for that attention Daddy never gave her.
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Hell yeah, I like em easy.

[ViagraFeller]

I think this is a very honest article/interview about the whole matter.

http://www.sundayszaman.com/sunday/d...etay&link=3481

And its not just the Kurds, its "a cross-section" of turkish society (note: a very small one of course, I'm not saying that this reflects on Turkey and its people on a whole!). Of course these things can happen anywhere, but "honor crimes" arent exactly popular among people from western civilizations.

Wow you should be a politician! You are great at placing comments out of context. What he said was, "It sounds to me like a cross-section of Turkey from an educational and economic point of view."

Put another way from the same source, same guy "It is not appropriate to associate honor killings with only one section of society. Some people think that it is related to a feudal structure, but this has proven to be false. There are also perpetrators who are well-educated university graduates. Of all those surveyed, 60 percent are either high school or university gradates or at the very least, literate. The victims of honor killing are not always women; males have also been targeted," The funny part? You got it he conducted his research in... the South East. Other research has found that most of the honor killings in the cities comes from Kurds who have migrated there.

Here is quite an interesting article which again features Bagli, it's from stophonourkillings.com http://www.stophonourkillings.com/?q=node/3592 There is some other interesting stuff on that site including stuff about how Turkey's attempts to prevent honor killings by tougher punishment has led instead to families forcing women into suicide.

[UriDepkeeks]

I'm not an expert on honor killings, but it doesn't seem right to pin them on kurds. Isn't it more commonly a Muslim thing? and happen throughout the world, not just Turkey. Turkey is an interesting situation, because it's at a crossroads of being a modern European style state, but it also has significant parts of the population that have medievil mindsets (not just Kurds)

There are dozens of honor killings in the US even, and it's my understanding it's not a Kurdish thing, more like extremist Muslims from Africa and parts of the Middle East. Maybe kurds engage in it too, so maybe it's not extremist Muslim related. Kurds are not Muslim correct? aren't they traditionally persecuted by Turks (and everyone else for that matter)?

[Hixinfineedom]

Wow you should be a politician! You are great at placing comments out of context. What he said was, "It sounds to me like a cross-section of Turkey from an educational and economic point of view."

Put another way from the same source, same guy "It is not appropriate to associate honor killings with only one section of society. Some people think that it is related to a feudal structure, but this has proven to be false. There are also perpetrators who are well-educated university graduates. Of all those surveyed, 60 percent are either high school or university gradates or at the very least, literate. The victims of honor killing are not always women; males have also been targeted," The funny part? You got it he conducted his research in... the South East. Other research has found that most of the honor killings in the cities comes from Kurds who have migrated there.

Here is quite an interesting article which again features Bagli, it's from stophonourkillings.com http://www.stophonourkillings.com/?q=node/3592 There is some other interesting stuff on that site including stuff about how Turkey's attempts to prevent honor killings by tougher punishment has led instead to families forcing women into suicide.

Exactly. He said its not only the Kurds. And that was my point.

I'm not an expert on honor killings, but it doesn't seem right to pin them on kurds. Isn't it more commonly a Muslim thing? and happen throughout the world, not just Turkey. Turkey is an interesting situation, because it's at a crossroads of being a modern European style state, but it also has significant parts of the population that have medievil mindsets (not just Kurds)

There are dozens of honor killings in the US even, and it's my understanding it's not a Kurdish thing, more like extremist Muslims from Africa and parts of the Middle East. Maybe kurds engage in it too, so maybe it's not extremist Muslim related. Kurds are not Muslim correct? aren't they traditionally persecuted by Turks (and everyone else for that matter)?

Indeed.