[Prarnenoexpog]

Yeah and those 5 posts are in response to the majority of people saying it sucked.

Obviously the majority of people at this point are saying it DIDNT suck because after almost 4,000 votes it's rated @ 8.6 [yes].


And now I've gone on to check out the first two pages of threads(40+ threads) and over half of them are either defending or praising indy.... I'm not going to go any further as it's beginning to seem you have an agenda here.

[Vobomei]

Obviously the majority of people at this point are saying it DIDNT suck because after almost 4,000 votes it's rated @ 8.6 [yes].


And now I've gone on to check out the first two pages of threads(40+ threads) and over half of them are either defending or praising indy.... I'm not going to go any further as it's beginning to seem you have an agenda here.

Well then clearly you are just blind, and as I have already said, all IMDB scores are overly inflated until the movie has been out for a while. Rambo had an 8.6 when it was first released and now its a 7.5. They all drop.

[Prarnenoexpog]

Well then clearly you are just blind, and as I have already said, all IMDB scores are overly inflated until the movie has been out for a while. Rambo had an 8.6 when it was first released and now its a 7.5. They all drop.

They don't 'all drop'. Some even go up over time(like The Fountain, AI, 2001, etc). Trust me, I am a regular on IMDB and frequently post on the forums so I understand how it works. A 7.5 is still a terrific score on IMDB anyway.

I'm clearly blind?!?! That's all you can say??!?! I just told you STRAIGHT OUT, FACTUALLY that over half of the posts in the first two pages were positive towards indiana jones. I was very specific, how does that make me blind at all?

Just because you hated the movie doesn't mean everyone else did, so it's alright if you don't like it. Just don't act like everyone on IMDB hated it.


And why do you hate it anyway? You've never said anything about it.

It totally suited the older films. It fit's in just perfectly. Honestly, that's what the older films were all about and if you HATE this one I just can't see how you ever liked the other ones. Indiana Jones was ALWAYS campy, and all about one liners and fairly bad jokes.


SPOILERS BELOW: REPEAT, IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS STOP READING:


The reason they went for aliens this time around, is in the 80's, the indiana jones movies were totally about being an homage to the really cheesy fun safari/adventure movies of the 30's. With this new indy, set in the 50's, spielberg and crew decided to give an homage to the cheesy space movies of the 1950's. It makes perfect sense.


Don't get me wrong, I agree that the waterfall thing(falling down three huge waterfalls) and the fridge thing were kind of extreme, no doubt. Moreso than the older ones. And while I do consider them negatives they AREN'T back breakers in ANY WAY, I mean, temple of doom definitely had much less depth and character development and probably just as much unbelieveable moments(i mean come on, guy ripping heart out of chest and the heart is still beating and the guy is still alive?!? that's EASILY just as ridiculous as anything in Crystal Skull).

As I said, these movies have ALWAYS been kind of more or less ridiculous in there own ways.

I've noticed a LOT of people look back on the original trilogy when they saw them so long ago and idolize them as if they were perfect, but in reality this new one matches with them very well.

Just my two cents I guess.


And for the record, I gave it a solid 8/10 on IMDB. I understand it isn't a perfect movie, BUT I also understand that neither were any of the old ones. I think it will end up dropping to somewhere between a 7.5 and 8.0, but for it to be as "TERRIBLY BAD" as you make it out to be it would have to drop below a 6, which AINT gonna happen, not even close. Hell, not even close to below a SEVEN.

[Krruqgwt]

I would say a 7 maybe 7.5, the last 30 minutes brought it down from a solid 8.5-9

[Vobomei]

Well I didn't want to spoil it for anyone but the reason it sucks:

-Overused CG that looks like dog crap. We don't need stupid 3d gophers that have ABSOLUTELY no point in the movie other than be a FAILED attempt at humor. You can totally tell George Lucas added that crap in just like the stupid Honey Comb guy in ROTJ.
-CG was supposed to only be at about 30% and it was well more than that. You can tell they didn't film on location anywhere. Hell, the sound stage for the quick sand pit looked awful and you could totally tell it was made in a sound stage.
-The Nuclear Explosion in the fridge was the dumbest thing on the face of this planet.
-Indiana Jones doesn't fire a single shot. In the first and third one he gets in numerous gun battles. It was lame that he had a million chances to finally use his gun or another gun and doesn't.
-The Tarzan monkey sequence was more stupid CG crap that didn't need to be in the movie. The monkey's actually attacked the Russians which was dumb as hell.
-The whole truck chase sequence was totally crap. It should have been centered around the big tree grinder, but that thing gets shot and just vanishes.
-Mutt fighting with a sword while standing in the middle of two trucks was stupid, with him getting hit in the balls and it was again totally lame.
-There was ZERO character development. Indiana and Marion fight once then all the sudden they are in love and get married even though they haven't seen each other for years.
-The Whole alien thing was STUPID. Not to mention, they showed a big CG alien which again looked totally stupid.
-The Marriage scene was pointless.
-The story was totally stupid, and it felt like nothing was actually accomplished. So they return the skull and a Russian gets killed when she was supposed to get a gift?
-Some squad of Russians break into area 51 which is apparently guarded by 5 guards and no one else. Not to mention, they still perform a nuclear test after there has been a breach.
-The stupid scene where Marion drives a truck off a cliff and lands on a tree and magically it reaches the river.
-The Waterfall scene was stupid, but I was willing to accept this as more than anything else as it seemed more of the indy style and reminded me of TOD.

[KlaraNovikoffaZ]

-The Waterfall scene was stupid, but I was willing to accept this as more than anything else as it seemed more of the indy style and reminded me of TOD.

I think that was only in there so they could make a thrill ride.

[uaodnabnjz]

I wasn't expecting much. It's the weakest of all the Indiana Jones films. It's an enjoyable movie, but just didn't have the heart that the other films had. I was disappointed by the sci-fi aspects of the film, and the overall silliness of some of the scenes (such as the monkees and the groundhogs) made the movie feel like a parody at times. Overall, the CGI effects just didn't seem to fit the Indiana Jones universe, and given Lucas's obsession with CGI, I wonder if he had a hand in pushing Spielberg in the wrong direction.

All in all, a quickly forgettable movie, which is a shame....

[XKAgustin]

All in all, a quickly forgettable movie, which is a shame....

That sums it up for me.

I went in not expecting much so I wouldn't be let down...yet I was. This one is easily forgettable, there's just no magic at all.

None of the other three were perfect and at times they were pretty corny, but they all had something that made them better than this one, movie magic. Something Spielberg and Lucas seemed to have lost.

It is a shame.

[clapsoewmred]

What in the holy **** happened to this movie? To be honest, I'm VERY lenient with movies... I liked the last two Matrix movies, and I also thoroughly enjoyed the Star Wars prequels. Granted, they weren't as good as the originals, but they entertained nonetheless.

I am also a HUGE fan of the Indiana Jones films. Raiders of the Lost Ark was Fantastic, as was The Last Crusade. Temple of Doom was good, but it was a little too serious to really stand out in the trilogy. That's why I was really anticipating Crystal Skull, as it was supposed to hearken back to the Lost Ark mentality, with supposed minimal usage of CG.

After watching the first ten minutes, my stomach sank. I haven't seen a more ridiculous survival in all of my life. Couple that with ZERO story depth with Shia Lebouf's character (not to mention ZERO humour, of which he was famous for in Transformers and Surf's Up), and we already are at a bad start.

The plot was atrocious, convoluted beyond comprehension, and after about an hour into the movie, I pretty much had no idea what the plot point was. How the ******* hell did Spielberg direct this movie? This is the same guy who did Jurassic Park, Amistad, Minority Report, ET, War of the Worlds, Catch Me If You Can.........how could he have directed this movie that was supposed to be a legendary sequel to a fantastic trilogy? Something tells me that if Lucas actually kept Darabont's script, it would have been 100x better. Absolute ******* **** **** **** on a ******* **** **** **** **** ****.

[timgreyuvcz]

He doesn't fire a single shot from his gun. [no]

[AnypecekceS]

I was expecting it to be crap and sadly from what i´ve seen i was right

[Seisyvose]

He doesn't fire a single shot from his gun. [no]

That's because they replaced all the guns with walkie-talkies!

[Licacivelip]

I have to agree. The weakest out of the 4. I never liked ToD but this is even worse [no]. CG was terrible and pointless. I'm disappointed.

[Opinion_counts]

***More SPOILERS!******

Was it just me or did it look like the crystal skull was filled with plastic saran wrap?????

[c2siOlIk]

I was expecting it to be crap and sadly from what i´ve seen i was right

I though you would have liked the alien bits

Anyway, the movie just didnt feel like an Indiana Jones film, the nuclear bomb scene just came out of nowhere, seemed like they just wanted an excuse to have a CG nuclear explosion.

[jesyflowers]

Well I didn't want to spoil it for anyone but the reason it sucks:

-Overused CG that looks like dog crap. We don't need stupid 3d gophers that have ABSOLUTELY no point in the movie other than be a FAILED attempt at humor. You can totally tell George Lucas added that crap in just like the stupid Honey Comb guy in ROTJ.
-CG was supposed to only be at about 30% and it was well more than that. You can tell they didn't film on location anywhere. Hell, the sound stage for the quick sand pit looked awful and you could totally tell it was made in a sound stage.
-The Nuclear Explosion in the fridge was the dumbest thing on the face of this planet.
-Indiana Jones doesn't fire a single shot. In the first and third one he gets in numerous gun battles. It was lame that he had a million chances to finally use his gun or another gun and doesn't.
-The Tarzan monkey sequence was more stupid CG crap that didn't need to be in the movie. The monkey's actually attacked the Russians which was dumb as hell.
-The whole truck chase sequence was totally crap. It should have been centered around the big tree grinder, but that thing gets shot and just vanishes.
-Mutt fighting with a sword while standing in the middle of two trucks was stupid, with him getting hit in the balls and it was again totally lame.
-There was ZERO character development. Indiana and Marion fight once then all the sudden they are in love and get married even though they haven't seen each other for years.
-The Whole alien thing was STUPID. Not to mention, they showed a big CG alien which again looked totally stupid.
-The Marriage scene was pointless.
-The story was totally stupid, and it felt like nothing was actually accomplished. So they return the skull and a Russian gets killed when she was supposed to get a gift?
-Some squad of Russians break into area 51 which is apparently guarded by 5 guards and no one else. Not to mention, they still perform a nuclear test after there has been a breach.
-The stupid scene where Marion drives a truck off a cliff and lands on a tree and magically it reaches the river.
-The Waterfall scene was stupid, but I was willing to accept this as more than anything else as it seemed more of the indy style and reminded me of TOD.

QFT

Everything you stated is exactly what I was thinking during the movie. It just wasn't believable at all. And the story went WAY to fast, there was no build up at all. It's like they condensed a 6 hour movie into the time slot they had. I was disappointed. And the entire time I was watching it, it seemed like Ford thought the same thing.

I'm usually very lenient towards movies, I realize alot of time and money goes towards making them, but I was seriously thinking about walking out of this one.

[Prarnenoexpog]

QFT

Everything you stated is exactly what I was thinking during the movie. It just wasn't believable at all.

So yanking a beating heart out of someone, holding it in your hand while it's still somehow beating, and STILL having the guy being alive after all of this is believable?

Opening a chest full of sand that completely kills and essentially melts anyone who sees it, but you're fine if you keep your eyes closed is believable?

Drinking a cup of water out of a golden cup and then melting and dying is believable?

Light activated traps(think about this, LIGHT ACTIVATED FROM AN ANCIENT TRIBE) and a huge boulder waiting to roll after you from tribes that are thousands of years old is believable?


I could go on and on but my point is clear. The Indy movies have NEVER been believable. They've always been fun, suspend-your-disbelief types of movies. It's the years and the memories that have turned these movies into supposed 'epic', perfectly written movies.

Falling into a hole into a cave like building that is completely filled with snakes for no apparant reason is believable?

People eating monkey brains(right out of the skull no less) and all that other terrible **** is believable?



Honestly, far too much idolizing of the old movies. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull totally suits the old ones, but OBVIOUSLY it's made in modern days so it takes advantage of some modern day technologies(ala CGI) and advances the plot and action more(maybe, admittedly, a little too much more)

This IS indiana jones, it felt like indiana jones through and through. The corny but fantastic one liners were there, the fist fights and stereotypes of foreign soldiers were there, AND the unbelievable, ridiculous moments were all there. They were all just ramped up a notch.


Don't get me wrong, this definitely isn't a perfect movie. The monkey scene, the 3 waterfall scene, and the fridge scene were all too over the top for my tastes.

Still, I give it a solid 8/10... Same as Temple of Doom. I'd give Raiders and Last Crusade both 9/10.

[jesyflowers]

So yanking a beating heart out of someone, holding it in your hand while it's still somehow beating, and STILL having the guy being alive after all of this is believable?

Opening a chest full of sand that completely kills and essentially melts anyone who sees it, but you're fine if you keep your eyes closed is believable?

Drinking a cup of water out of a golden cup and then melting and dying is believable?

Light activated traps(think about this, LIGHT ACTIVATED FROM AN ANCIENT TRIBE) and a huge boulder waiting to roll after you from tribes that are thousands of years old is believable?


I could go on and on but my point is clear. The Indy movies have NEVER been believable. They've always been fun, suspend-your-disbelief types of movies. It's the years and the memories that have turned these movies into supposed 'epic', perfectly written movies.

Falling into a hole into a cave like building that is completely filled with snakes for no apparant reason is believable?

People eating monkey brains(right out of the skull no less) and all that other terrible **** is believable?



Honestly, far too much idolizing of the old movies. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull totally suits the old ones, but OBVIOUSLY it's made in modern days so it takes advantage of some modern day technologies(ala CGI) and advances the plot and action more(maybe, admittedly, a little too much more)

This IS indiana jones, it felt like indiana jones through and through. The corny but fantastic one liners were there, the fist fights and stereotypes of foreign soldiers were there, AND the unbelievable, ridiculous moments were all there. They were all just ramped up a notch.


Don't get me wrong, this definitely isn't a perfect movie. The monkey scene, the 3 waterfall scene, and the fridge scene were all too over the top for my tastes.

Still, I give it a solid 8/10... Same as Temple of Doom. I'd give Raiders and Last Crusade both 9/10.

I'm not idolizing the other movies, this movie just had a higher bar to meet b/c of the first 3, and it blew it. Like I said, it seemed really rushed, which is unlike the first 3. The skeptical things that happened in the other movies were built up.

[Vobomei]

Oh look Cleeve it dropped to a 7.7 on imdb [rolleyes] Like I said it will continue to drop.

Besides, yes the other things are more believable in those movies because they were well done. Not to mention, its part of the immersion, and finding a religious artifact that actually works is way better than stupid aliens.

They explained nothing about the aliens, and the whole thing was useless. What was even the point of returning the skull? Nothing happened besides the person who returned it was killed. LAME

[Svatudjw]

There have already been spoilers, but just incase more below:
I thought it was decent. I found my friends and myself laughing quite a few times a the rediculousness of some of the scenes. I expected it though. The whole magnetic thing was so full of flaws it was killing me; I'm in physics. That's all fine and dandy but what I have to complain about is the aliens. I mean come on, you can do better. I feel like it's a cheap cop out for whatever they want.