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Old 02-18-2008, 02:31 AM   #21
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As I said earlier I'm sure there's some logical explanation for why some contrails disappear within a few minutes and others are there for a while.
Well yes, there are different layers of atmosphere, almost like an onion, with differing layers of humidity, temperature, and percipitation. This will more than likely result in a contrail lasting a bit longer, but the entire day? Also, since the humidity that day was low enough to prevent cloud formation, I'm assuming that contrail formation would remain at a minimum.
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:55 AM   #22
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so why do chem trails stay around so long then >?

im confused a to why chem trails are so extra special that they stay around for days yet contrails can disappear in minutes/hours.
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Old 02-18-2008, 03:26 AM   #23
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Another thing I found weird was that two nearly identicle planes were flying next to each other, one spurting trails like crazy and the other not releasing any at all. I have a relatively crude picture I took of it i'll post in a minute.
Just because they look like they're side by side from the ground does not mean they actual are. One could be a couple of thousand feet higher than the other which would explain why one leaves a trail whilst the other doesn't.
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Old 02-18-2008, 03:34 AM   #24
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so why do chem trails stay around so long then >?

im confused a to why chem trails are so extra special that they stay around for days yet contrails can disappear in minutes/hours.
Well, the Conspiracy argument is that contrails are essentially water/condensation/ice, whereas Chemtrails consist of Aerosol which contains traces of Aluminum, Barium, and other toxic chemicals, which therefore stays in the atmosphere longer. Here is a picture from Nasa that shows Contrails, and while NASA refutes the chemtrail theory pretty vigorously, even they claim that the moisture caused by contrails may inevitably be increasing global warming due to the sun's reflection off the water's surface.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap041013.html

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Old 02-18-2008, 04:04 AM   #25
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but Barium is heavier than water
and so is aluminum.

just cos its sprayed out in an aerosol doesn't change its weight surely
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:34 AM   #26
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but Barium is heavier than water
and so is aluminum.

just cos its sprayed out in an aerosol doesn't change its weight surely
Here a quote that attempts to explain the situation

Most of the elements used in the spray are heavier than air, even in their powdered form they are heavier and will sink quickly. Mixing them with the polymers suspends the particles in the atmosphere high above the surface for longer periods of time, therefore in theory we do not need to spray as often or as much material. Since the suspended particles eventually do settle into the lowest part of the atmosphere and are inhaled by all life forms on the surface there is an attempt to counter the growth of mold by adding to the mixture mold growth suppressants - some of which may be of biological material.
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:49 AM   #27
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So the conspiracy is that "someone" is spraying random chemicals in the atmosphere for "some reason"? Or is it that planes are worse than we let on?
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:52 AM   #28
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So the conspiracy is that "someone" is spraying random chemicals in the atmosphere for "some reason"? Or is it that planes are worse than we let on?
There's all sorts of pretty crazy theories ranging from glogal population control, global warming control, and various others. Most all of them are bad though
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:08 AM   #29
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There's all sorts of pretty crazy theories ranging from glogal population control, global warming control, and various others. Most all of them are bad though
Ah, sounds like a load to me then
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:11 AM   #30
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Ah, sounds like a load to me then
Well, it depends on your perspective. Review the information I provided in this post, along with the youtube videos, and you'll be surprised that it's not too far fetched.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:03 AM   #31
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I am sure if there were such things as Chemtrails or whatever the news would be right there to report it and make it seem like the end of the world. Especially during a time where people are becoming more and more environmentally conscious.
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:02 AM   #32
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Thanks for the good laugh, it made my day a little better.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:56 AM   #33
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Well, it depends on your perspective. Review the information I provided in this post, along with the youtube videos, and you'll be surprised that it's not too far fetched.
Haha Yeah...Youtube is a great source to prove conspiracy theories...
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:17 PM   #34
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Haha Yeah...Youtube is a great source to prove conspiracy theories...
I'm glad you guys actually contribute to the thread, as opposed to posting wise crack responses. At the very least, I proposed some could-be evidence of Chemtrails. What have you provided? [rolleyes]
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:23 PM   #35
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I'm glad you guys actually contribute to the thread, as opposed to posting wise crack responses. At the very least, I proposed some could-be evidence of Chemtrails. What have you provided? [rolleyes]
Nothing is better than "could-be" evidence of something that isn't real.
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:24 PM   #36
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Nothing is better than "could-be" evidence of something that isn't real.
Maybe you aren't real? I've never seen you, and the only proof is this forum.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:23 PM   #37
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i took a picture of the sky from our flat that looks alot similar to that, could it be caused by the same thing?

http://maraccasmein.deviantart.com/a...e-Sky-75089162
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:28 PM   #38
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i took a picture of the sky from our flat that looks alot similar to that, could it be caused by the same thing?

http://maraccasmein.deviantart.com/a...e-Sky-75089162
Yup, those are deffinately caused by a plane. Isn't funny how you could have seen the sky a million times and never noticed this?
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:39 PM   #39
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Yup, those are deffinately caused by a plane. Isn't funny how you could have seen the sky a million times and never noticed this?
But thats the thing...everyone has noticed this and its been going on..its just a trail left from the plane
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Old 02-18-2008, 04:08 PM   #40
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[rofl] I love people.

The differences in Contrail appearance is because of different atmospheric conditions at different altitudes.

A two-second Google search turned up:
Contrail Science
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