[Thifiadardivy]

After work last night one of the guys a bouncer threw out (because of me, he was drunk, using abusive talk and he even grabbed my work kollegs boob (which actually was the main reason he got thrown out) well and the fact he´s a stupid ****) waited for me till i finished my shift. The guy posed infront of me, semi yelling and well you know doing the typical "i´m better, stronger, cooler than you ****"
So before he could even do anything (i knew he was wanting to start some ****) i punched him right in the face (my knuckles still hurt) and kicked him a few times in the ribs a second later our bouncers were there and took care of the ****. (hence called the cops, etc)
Anyways, just a few minutes ago i got a call from the police !!! (wtf it´s like 4 pm ???)
I´m supposed to visit the station tomorrow morning to state my view on the situation?
So it seems like the ****ing **** is trying to sue me for pain costs (no idea what it´s called in english)
This all really pisses me off, what ever happend to man against man ?
I mean heck i already know this is going to end expensive for me, if i wouldn´t have took the first swing he would have,..
FFS this is really ****ed up

Any tips on what i should say to the cops ?
I think i´m gonna say it the way it is, which isn´t that good i guess

[AlabamaBoyz]

That's real f****** **** is that! [cursing]

Maybe you could ask your work colleague to file a sexual harrasment case. That'll shut him up won't it? [thumbdown]

[mikeydesignzinc]

You assault someone, and the police are gonna wanna hear the story from all partys involved. Simple as. Just tell em the truth.

[enurihent]

Tell the truth....

He did harass you and almost everybody else. And here in Denmark it's self-defence if you felt endangered, even if you hit him first. And at least you have witnesses that can backup your story.

And the fact that he waited for you outside tells the court that he intended to hurt you.
So you shouldn't bee too worried.......Just tell the story as it happend.

[Thifiadardivy]

Well let´s hope all go´s well, because from all i know here in Germany, the guy that strikes first is mainly the guy that get´s ****ed in the end. [thumbdown]
Ohh well, i guess atleast i have the bouncers behind me.

now i might have a problem with a few turks though

[NADALA]

Just explain the situation, he was thrown out due to your actions and the actions of him assaulting your female friend, he appeared to have waited for you for when you came out, he came at you shouting and you felt threatened.

[StarsWorld]

Don't know what the laws like over there, but over here for example if I was working and a customer hit me I couldn't actually hit them back or I'd get sacked and all sorts, it's really stupid and crap.

Although you were finished your shift and you have witnesses in the bouncers I suppose so you should be fine if you all have the same story

[zoolissentesy]

If you thought you were in danger you could probably get away with punching him first, but kicking him the ribs was probably a mistake IMO.

[soipguibbom]

Well let´s hope all go´s well, because from all i know here in Germany, the guy that strikes first is mainly the guy that get´s ****ed in the end. [thumbdown]
Ohh well, i guess atleast i have the bouncers behind me.

now i might have a problem with a few turks though

in that situation you have to say he was coming at me, i felt threatened, and it was self defense. If you know he was gonna hit you, so you hit first, the above is just a more diplomatic way of saying. believe me, i know what you're saying, if he was definately gonna fight you, you did the right thing. crack him first. just don't say you hit him first, say he was in the process of attacking you, so you hit him. Also, give the background and all his uncontrolled actions leading up the him stalking you after work. imo, you should be fine in the police's eyes, you just need to make sure you don't come out and explicitly say "i hit him first"

also, to be devil's advocate,.... you sure you are concerened with mano a mano? cause it sounds like you knew damn well you'd have some bouncers back you up before he could do anything.

[PaulCameron]

also, to be devil's advocate,.... you sure you are concerened with mano a mano? cause it sounds like you knew damn well you'd have some bouncers back you up before he could do anything.

And, with the rib kicking, sounds like you had your jollies too. Best get to the CCTV before anyone else mate.

[investor]

in that situation you have to say he was coming at me, i felt threatened, and it was self defense. If you know he was gonna hit you, so you hit first, the above is just a more diplomatic way of saying. believe me, i know what you're saying, if he was definately gonna fight you, you did the right thing. crack him first. just don't say you hit him first, say he was in the process of attacking you, so you hit him. Also, give the background and all his uncontrolled actions leading up the him stalking you after work. imo, you should be fine in the police's eyes, you just need to make sure you don't come out and explicitly say "i hit him first"

also, to be devil's advocate,.... you sure you are concerened with mano a mano? cause it sounds like you knew damn well you'd have some bouncers back you up before he could do anything.

I agree with the first part.

As far as Mano-a-Mano, he had his bouncer friends backing him up in case someone tried to jump in or the guy tried to "really" injure him. That's the way I see it.

[Efksqhyu]

If you thought you were in danger you could probably get away with punching him first, but kicking him the ribs was probably a mistake IMO.

Agreed.

One swing? Self defense to show you felt endangered.

One swing and a few kicks? I'd have your ass in court too.

Think of it as state your piece and be done. Nothing more, nothing less. If you can knock a guy to the ground with one swing, you've already hurt his pride and shown him you mean business. Throwing the kicks was just a touch too far. IMO.

[soipguibbom]

Think of it as state your piece and be done. Nothing more, nothing less. If you can knock a guy to the ground with one swing, you've already hurt his pride and shown him you mean business. Throwing the kicks was just a touch too far. IMO. i actually agree with this. Unless they have a knife or something, but in a stupid bar fist fight, if you knock someone down, they usually aren't gonna get back up and be a threat.

[Abarricoss]

Chivalry is dead.

Fighting man to man and accepting a beating if you lose and leaving it at that is a thing of the past. Nowadays they'll either pull a knife or gun on you. But you got to remember, this is today's male ego. Acting honorably has gone from the thing to do, to the thing that is never done.

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For there to be an actual case, someone has to feel like their life was in jeopardy. Some cops I know will actually "semi-intimidate" a person and say "You were afraid for your life cause of THIS guy?" and when their ego makes them say no, then boom, no charges can be filed, because he just admitted that he did not feel like his life was in peril.

Bottom line for a lesson is "If you're gonna TALK sh*t, then back it up."

[yarita]

Well let´s hope all go´s well, because from all i know here in Germany, the guy that strikes first is mainly the guy that get´s ****ed in the end. [thumbdown]
Ohh well, i guess atleast i have the bouncers behind me.

now i might have a problem with a few turks though

So you sucker punch the guy to get a away because you feel threatened, fair enough.

But, you sucker punch the guy then kick him when hes down... Get a good lawyer if he does take it to court. Johnny Cochran if he is avaliable.

[ServiceColas]

Johnny Cochran if he is avaliable.

dead and buried

[yarita]

dead and buried

Bummer. The chewbacca defence is possibly one of the only ways he could have been saved.

[luspikals]

As everyone else has said, you really don't have a chance here. I don't even know if you can claim the self defense route - anyone that you can take down in one swing, probably wasn't threatening you anyway. And anyone that stays down long enough to get kicked like that, really isn't a threat.

Yeah, i would have your ass in court too, to be honest...

[LxtdK9i4]

I don't get why not let the badguy make the first move. It's not like he threatened you with a knife or a gun. It isn't that hard to dodge a drunks punch, imo.

[Thifiadardivy]

Well i just got back from the police. [thumbdown] (damn how i hate those ****´s)
The situation doesn´t even seem that bad, I gave up a detailed description of what happend and that was pretty much it.
I might be lucky cause the cop interviewing me said the guy had a record of violent behaviour, He also said even if he try´s to sue me for a pain claimment (or whatever) it probably wouldn´t exceed 500€ (cause no real damage was done)
And he also stated that he hasen´t filed for anything yet, it´s all standard procedure atm. (cause the bouncers called the cops)
All in all i could get lucky with this.

To everybody that said kicking him was to much,
Were not talking about a movie knockout, giving a speech and then breaking some ribs.
I hit him he tumbled back a bit and i was on him almost before he hit the ground.
And again i´ll say the same thing as a said to the cop as he asked me,
when i feel threatend, i´m going to make sure that the threat is removed.
I´m just happy i didn´t kick him in the face.

Now imo the real problem are the turks that are probably going to be wanting a piece of me, i´m actually considering getting a gun (with Cs gas or something) [thumbdown]


@ 1Ghz
I actually didn´t know the bouncers would be there! otherwise i wouldn´t have even made my fingers dirty. Again this happend outside on the parking lot.