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**emily** · 01-13-2006, 01:08 AM

Found this on EBay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Linux-the-wind...QQcmdZViewItem

Someone selling Linux, Linux is free, ruddy thieves!

**thegamexpertsdotcom** · 01-13-2006, 01:13 AM

So report them. Its illegal to sell open source code for profit

**emily** · 01-13-2006, 01:16 AM

Already did

**flienianO** · 01-13-2006, 01:17 AM

Check his other auctions out. Looks like he is selling emulators and ROMs, and he is also selling a cd that contains Anti-Virus, Spyware, system utility programs, all of which seem to be free on the net.

**Repwailia** · 01-13-2006, 01:23 AM

He would probably say he's not selling the software, he's selling the discs that it comes on.

**Tzqowwyt** · 01-13-2006, 01:23 AM

I just reported some ebay seller yesterday for selling pirated copies of Reason 3.0 (he even says in the auction that he´s selling backup copies on cdr),..
Kinda pissed me off.

**Biradallo** · 01-13-2006, 03:14 AM

As if the fact he's trying to sell an open source OS isn't bad enough...

"IMMUNE TO VIRUSES AND SPYWARE!"
Flat out straight up BS and lies. There are already Linux specific viruses that exist, and have for some time

"No bugs, crashes or security problems"
And again. Linux has plenty of bugs (any complicated software does), it's not immune to crashes, and again there's known and documented security issues.

" This Operating system has been designed to resemble windows as closely as
possible."

No it hasn't. I suppose you could say that for Lindows, but not Linux in general.
Sigh... I'm just gonna stop there. Preying on people's lack of knowledge is just... yeah... [thumbdown]

[edit]
lol, even some of his screenshots are from Windows
In fact this one even says "Firefox 1.0.4 for Windows"

**catarleriarly** · 01-13-2006, 04:12 AM

Uh... That's Linspire (Lindows) and it's not free, you have to buy it.

Also, if selling open source software is illegal... Then how is it Linspire can charge you with their Click N Run (the whole basis of getting it to work) for free software?

Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money? Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what price you can charge. (The one exception is the required written offer to provide source code that must accompany binary-only release.)

**Biradallo** · 01-13-2006, 04:26 AM

Uh... That's Linspire (Lindows) and it's not free, you have to buy it.

D'oh! Forgot about the name change! And I know it's not free, my comment had nothing to do with cost, but rather that Linux is not "designed to resemble windows as closely as possible."

Also, if selling open source software is illegal... Then how is it Linspire can charge you with their Click N Run (the whole basis of getting it to work) for free software?

They're charging you for the service. Click N Run is a whole lot more then just re-distributing what you could get for free (also, CNR has a free option, as well as a paid "gold" service). Just like Bungle says, this seller will most likely say he's charging for the CDs, not the OS.

**catarleriarly** · 02-12-2006, 08:47 AM

D'oh! Forgot about the name change! And I know it's not free, my comment had nothing to do with cost, but rather that Linux is not "designed to resemble windows as closely as possible."

They're charging you for the service. Click N Run is a whole lot more then just re-distributing what you could get for free (also, CNR has a free option, as well as a paid "gold" service). Just like Bungle says, this seller will most likely say he's charging for the CDs, not the OS.

I was just saying it was Linspire in general, wasn't directed at you. This thread had the general assumption that it was free.

And I know Click N Run is much more than just re-distibuting. You're still getting charged for applications though. There's some things you can get for free off of it, with most not being able to.

All in all the thread should read my GNU quote. The guy, although to many immorally wrong, isn't doing anything legally wrong.

**emily** · 02-12-2006, 05:34 PM

The guy, although to many immorally wrong, isn't doing anything legally wrong.

Its Linux he is selling, and Linux IS free.

**SimSlim** · 02-12-2006, 07:56 PM

All in all the thread should read my GNU quote. The guy, although to many immorally wrong, isn't doing anything legally wrong.

Yes it is. It is illegal to ask money for software available under the GPL license.
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

**catarleriarly** · 02-12-2006, 08:09 PM

Yes it is. It is illegal to ask money for software available under the GPL license.
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

Finally, someone who reads more into something than what another user quotes. Thought I'd get people agreeing with the opposite side, but they were too busy saying Linux is free... Yah, actual Linux (the kernel) is, but the distro doesn't have to be free.

01-13-2006, 01:08 AM	#1
emily Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	The cheek of some people... Found this on EBay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Linux-the-wind...QQcmdZViewItem Someone selling Linux, Linux is free, ruddy thieves! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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thegamexpertsdotcom Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	So report them. Its illegal to sell open source code for profit Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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emily Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	Already did Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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flienianO Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	Check his other auctions out. Looks like he is selling emulators and ROMs, and he is also selling a cd that contains Anti-Virus, Spyware, system utility programs, all of which seem to be free on the net. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Repwailia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 533 Senior Member	He would probably say he's not selling the software, he's selling the discs that it comes on. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2006, 01:23 AM	#6
Tzqowwyt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	I just reported some ebay seller yesterday for selling pirated copies of Reason 3.0 (he even says in the auction that he´s selling backup copies on cdr),.. Kinda pissed me off. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2006, 03:14 AM	#7
Biradallo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 512 Senior Member	As if the fact he's trying to sell an open source OS isn't bad enough... "IMMUNE TO VIRUSES AND SPYWARE!" Flat out straight up BS and lies. There are already Linux specific viruses that exist, and have for some time "No bugs, crashes or security problems" And again. Linux has plenty of bugs (any complicated software does), it's not immune to crashes, and again there's known and documented security issues. " This Operating system has been designed to resemble windows as closely as possible." No it hasn't. I suppose you could say that for Lindows, but not Linux in general. Sigh... I'm just gonna stop there. Preying on people's lack of knowledge is just... yeah... [thumbdown] [edit] lol, even some of his screenshots are from Windows In fact this one even says "Firefox 1.0.4 for Windows" Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2006, 04:12 AM	#8
catarleriarly Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	Uh... That's Linspire (Lindows) and it's not free, you have to buy it. Also, if selling open source software is illegal... Then how is it Linspire can charge you with their Click N Run (the whole basis of getting it to work) for free software? Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money? Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what price you can charge. (The one exception is the required written offer to provide source code that must accompany binary-only release.) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2006, 04:26 AM	#9
Biradallo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 512 Senior Member	Uh... That's Linspire (Lindows) and it's not free, you have to buy it. D'oh! Forgot about the name change! And I know it's not free, my comment had nothing to do with cost, but rather that Linux is not "designed to resemble windows as closely as possible." Also, if selling open source software is illegal... Then how is it Linspire can charge you with their Click N Run (the whole basis of getting it to work) for free software? They're charging you for the service. Click N Run is a whole lot more then just re-distributing what you could get for free (also, CNR has a free option, as well as a paid "gold" service). Just like Bungle says, this seller will most likely say he's charging for the CDs, not the OS. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-12-2006, 08:47 AM	#10
catarleriarly Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	D'oh! Forgot about the name change! And I know it's not free, my comment had nothing to do with cost, but rather that Linux is not "designed to resemble windows as closely as possible." They're charging you for the service. Click N Run is a whole lot more then just re-distributing what you could get for free (also, CNR has a free option, as well as a paid "gold" service). Just like Bungle says, this seller will most likely say he's charging for the CDs, not the OS. I was just saying it was Linspire in general, wasn't directed at you. This thread had the general assumption that it was free. And I know Click N Run is much more than just re-distibuting. You're still getting charged for applications though. There's some things you can get for free off of it, with most not being able to. All in all the thread should read my GNU quote. The guy, although to many immorally wrong, isn't doing anything legally wrong. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-12-2006, 05:34 PM	#11
emily Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	The guy, although to many immorally wrong, isn't doing anything legally wrong. Its Linux he is selling, and Linux IS free. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-12-2006, 07:56 PM	#12
SimSlim Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 503 Senior Member	All in all the thread should read my GNU quote. The guy, although to many immorally wrong, isn't doing anything legally wrong. Yes it is. It is illegal to ask money for software available under the GPL license. http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-12-2006, 08:09 PM	#13
catarleriarly Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	Yes it is. It is illegal to ask money for software available under the GPL license. http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html Finally, someone who reads more into something than what another user quotes. Thought I'd get people agreeing with the opposite side, but they were too busy saying Linux is free... Yah, actual Linux (the kernel) is, but the distro doesn't have to be free. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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