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Old 10-17-2006, 01:46 AM   #21
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"Dude, I almost had you"

"Almost had ME?! You never had me, it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning."
Almost had ME? You never had your car....

* IIRC you recently crashed, change gears by the RPM tacho, do you really want to go trying something else that'll put you in more trouble?

Kids these days, always trying to do things faster. When will they learn...
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Old 10-17-2006, 01:50 AM   #22
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It's not hard. [rolleyes] He can save himself $100 and whatever fuel money and teach himself, whos to say u can drive properly. [yawn]
I am,and since I'm obviously superior to at least you...well,you know.

There's a nice vid of me taking some good turns at 85mph one-handed floating around the site if you wanna watch.
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Old 10-17-2006, 02:07 AM   #23
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I am,and since I'm obviously superior to at least you...well,you know.

There's a nice vid of me taking some good turns at 85mph one-handed floating around the site if you wanna watch.
PA turns give u bad whiplash! Damn crowntops!
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Old 10-17-2006, 02:35 AM   #24
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I am,and since I'm obviously superior to at least you...well,you know.

There's a nice vid of me taking some good turns at 85mph one-handed floating around the site if you wanna watch.
yeah far superior !

you own with your one handed 85mph stupidity.


Oh yeah I made a roleup at 120mph on the A96 I used my knees to steer !

Im way awesomer than yaw !
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Old 10-17-2006, 02:51 AM   #25
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I am,and since I'm obviously superior to at least you...well,you know.

There's a nice vid of me taking some good turns at 85mph one-handed floating around the site if you wanna watch.
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Old 10-17-2006, 10:20 AM   #26
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Old 10-17-2006, 12:39 PM   #27
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I tend to double-clutch for downshifts, particularly if I'm doing so because I want power in a hurry. I just find I can get the car into the lower gear with the engine matching the transmission revs quicker than the synchro's can do it. Smoother too.

No it's not really necessary in a typical car.
Yes it's kind of fun.
No you shouldn't try doing it before you can shift normally.
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Old 10-17-2006, 01:21 PM   #28
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I tend to double-clutch for downshifts, particularly if I'm doing so because I want power in a hurry. I just find I can get the car into the lower gear with the engine matching the transmission revs quicker than the synchro's can do it. Smoother too.

No it's not really necessary in a typical car.
Yes it's kind of fun.
No you shouldn't try doing it before you can shift normally.
Dude can u tell us how it's Done??

& does Double Clutching means u shift the grears without pressing the "Debreage Pedal" (am not sure if it's called so in English, I mean the pedal that's near the brakes that u press by ur leg when u are shifting)
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Old 10-17-2006, 01:41 PM   #29
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There's sure to be a heap of guides for it on the Internet that would explain it better than I can. Pretty sure somebody in here has already given the basics of it though. For a downshift, shift to neutral (using the clutch), rev the engine to the revs that match the gear you're going to select for the speed you're doing, shift from neutral into that gear. The rev match should usually just be a quick stab of the accelerator pedal, getting the match just comes with practice and knowing the vehicle.
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Old 10-17-2006, 02:21 PM   #30
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My WRX that I bought a month ago is my first stick too, though I learned the basics on my sister's Honda. When I'm downshifting I tend to press in the clutch, rev to match next gear, and then shift into that gear. I don't shift to neutral or let go of the clutch until I'm in the new gear. Of course I do it all quickly and it ends up being a very smooth transition to the lower gear. Does this sound right to you guys?

I've attempted to do heal-toe in an empty parking lot one time but, damn, my foot does not feel comfortable doing it. It's too hard for me to angle my foot to touch the gas and brake at the same time
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Old 10-17-2006, 02:56 PM   #31
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Does this sound right to you guys?
Sounds good to me. It's a single-clutch shift still, but you probably wouldn't see much improvement between that and a double-clutch shift. If you're cruising at low revs and skip down a couple of gears in a single shift you might find you have trouble getting the stick into the gear is all, that's where the double-clutch helps.

Heel-toe's nice, but I can imagine that some peoples ankles just wouldn't bend that way. It depends on the pedal positions. If you're serious about it you can change your pedals with a sports set, could help. I've never driven a WRX, but as a Japanese performer the pedals should be in a reasonable position for it already.
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Old 10-17-2006, 03:04 PM   #32
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Oh they are definitely setup right, I just gotta really focus next time I try it.

Here is a video of a WRX with a driver that knows what hes doing HERE Looks like the same year as mine judging by the interior (02-03)
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:22 PM   #33
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guys please i want to get something straight

is the Clutch means this pedal near the Brakes that we press when we shift grears????

in the video "dbrunner" posted i see that the dude driving shifts normaly pressing this pedal & shift the gears??!!

so what is meant by double clutch?? i though it means shifting the stick without pressing the pedal.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:36 PM   #34
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I always thought it was changing gears without the clutch. I used it when my slave cyliner was on it's way out. It goes something like this:

Say you're in first and ready for second:
1.Pull the stick out of first and into neutral.
2. Press the stick against second. It won't go in right now.
3. Let off the gas slowly until the engine RPM's match the transmission RPM's. When this happens it will slip into second.
4. Repeat for other gears.

Why you want to know this for a brand new car is beyond me.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:00 AM   #35
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I always thought it was changing gears without the clutch.
Pardon?

Change gears without a clutch? ... how?

An automatic has two clutches usually, a manual has one clutch.

Theres also CVT, sequential etc types of transmission too, but ... they have a clutch of some form, whether its where u press the pedal with your leg or it does it all for you.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:11 AM   #36
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Pardon?

Change gears without a clutch? ... how?

An automatic has two clutches usually, a manual has one clutch.

Theres also CVT, sequential etc types of transmission too, but ... they have a clutch of some form, whether its where u press the pedal with your leg or it does it all for you.
so if u have to press the pedal (is this pedal the clutch) so what's double clutching????

pressing the pedal when changing gears is the normal way.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:20 AM   #37
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Pardon?

Change gears without a clutch? ... how?

An automatic has two clutches usually, a manual has one clutch.

Theres also CVT, sequential etc types of transmission too, but ... they have a clutch of some form, whether its where u press the pedal with your leg or it does it all for you.
double clutching is using the clutch twice when changing gears. depress clutch. shift into neutral. release clutch. depress clutch. shift into desired gear. release clutch.

almost any manual transmission can be shifted without the clutch, and some are designed to not even need one between shifts. most of these are racing transmissions however. to shift a manual transmission without the clutch on an upshift you simply accelerate, match revs, release the accelerator and slide the gear lever into place. a downshift is mostly the same except that a quick blip of the throttle is required to get the gearsto mesh. if you are not really good at it the shifts are going to be jerky. on my old toyota pickup the 1-2 shift was smooth without a clutch. 2-3 was very rough and i couldn't even get the 3-4. this is not particularly good for the transmission if you are not good at it either.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:49 AM   #38
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double clutching is using the clutch twice when changing gears. depress clutch. shift into neutral. release clutch. depress clutch. shift into desired gear. release clutch.

almost any manual transmission can be shifted without the clutch, and some are designed to not even need one between shifts. most of these are racing transmissions however. to shift a manual transmission without the clutch on an upshift you simply accelerate, match revs, release the accelerator and slide the gear lever into place. a downshift is mostly the same except that a quick blip of the throttle is required to get the gearsto mesh. if you are not really good at it the shifts are going to be jerky. on my old toyota pickup the 1-2 shift was smooth without a clutch. 2-3 was very rough and i couldn't even get the 3-4. this is not particularly good for the transmission if you are not good at it either.
so erm might I ask how many gear boxes you have been through in your life time !
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:17 AM   #39
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Pardon?

Change gears without a clutch? ... how?

An automatic has two clutches usually, a manual has one clutch.

Theres also CVT, sequential etc types of transmission too, but ... they have a clutch of some form, whether its where u press the pedal with your leg or it does it all for you.
I thought I explained myself pretty good...
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:24 AM   #40
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I know this is essentially a car thread but virtually all motorbikes can be upshifted without the clutch - take up the slace in the gear lever, then knock the throttle off slightly, snick into the next gear and roll back on the throttle all in smooth, seemless motion. Once you've perfected the technique, you're actually saving the drivetrain and transmission system from the load/unload forces with using the clutch.
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