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Old 03-08-2008, 03:20 AM   #1
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Default Vulcan to display at Waddo
DISPLAY AUTHORITY GRANTED TO XH558 CREW

XH558 To Carry Out First Public Display At RAF Waddington International Airshow 5th/6th July 2008
first time in 17 years the big delta has been seen in public display

way to go everyone for making this happen.
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:30 AM   #2
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Just to fresh up the old brain cells







A fine piece of engineering [yes]
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:34 AM   #3
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My father in law was a chief engi (not sure of official title but the top dog) on those things.. monsters, amazing things.

Also, I think I heard it arriving today
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:28 AM   #4
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Nice, there is a Vulcan at my local airport (Southend) which is being restored also.

I hope she will end up flying eventually too.

Here it is doing a fast taxi run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp6OkcaOfrE

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Old 04-07-2008, 09:41 AM   #5
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I'm confused. I've never heard of these things before. They kinda look like Delta planes but they are smaller. Their engines look like they are dampened or something to reduce noise and their wing span look like they add a bit of weight and drag so it wouldn't exactly be the fastest thing in the air.

Judging by the smooth design (nice curves) and layout etc it kinda looks like it was invented for spying.

Anyways thats my guess just by looking at it. So what is it exactly (besides it being a plane)
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:33 AM   #6
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I'm confused. I've never heard of these things before. They kinda look like Delta planes but they are smaller. Their engines look like they are dampened or something to reduce noise and their wing span look like they add a bit of weight and drag so it wouldn't exactly be the fastest thing in the air.

Judging by the smooth design (nice curves) and layout etc it kinda looks like it was invented for spying.

Anyways thats my guess just by looking at it. So what is it exactly (besides it being a plane)
nope it was designed to drop the British nukes.

its a V bomber

and has sisters namely victor and valiant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_Bomber

its as noisy as fook massive and fast.

so your wrong on all accounts
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:57 AM   #7
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nope it was designed to drop the British nukes.

its a V bomber

and has sisters namely victor and valiant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_Bomber

its as noisy as fook massive and fast.

so your wrong on all accounts
Ahh cool. So it was more of a swift quick aircraft, designed to go in fast and exit fast. Cause I somewhat doubt it would be an good in actual combat, it looks like it has poor maneuverability in comparison to standard jets. But I could be wrong there too

I take it that another advantage of these would be to fly extremely high where most other aircraft can not reach?
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:06 AM   #8
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Ahh cool. So it was more of a swift quick aircraft, designed to go in fast and exit fast. Cause I somewhat doubt it would be an good in actual combat, it looks like it has poor maneuverability in comparison to standard jets. But I could be wrong there too

I take it that another advantage of these would be to fly extremely high where most other aircraft can not reach?
its big but its still very maneuverable it bombed the crap out of the argie bargies back in the day after taking off from england and did it low altitude but shes old matey you cant really compare her to modern stuff she is a piece of British history like the spitfire and hurricane are and loved by millions

now the electric lightening could whoop some modern jets though and shes from the same time "60's-70's and thats another piece of british establishment
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/uk...ing/859690.jpg

mach 2.23 same as the tornados and the eurofighters top speed is mach 2.4
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:41 AM   #9
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its big but its still very maneuverable it bombed the crap out of the argie bargies back in the day after taking off from england and did it low altitude but shes old matey you cant really compare her to modern stuff she is a piece of British history like the spitfire and hurricane are and loved by millions

now the electric lightening could whoop some modern jets though and shes from the same time "60's-70's and thats another piece of british establishment
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/uk...ing/859690.jpg

mach 2.23 same as the tornados and the eurofighters top speed is mach 2.4
Yea its all good. Kinda sad to see pieces of histories legends go away.

I'm pretty sure there is a similar jet to the one in the picture you linked but it can be rocket propelled whilst airborne and can go up to mach 5 speeds. That's pretty darn insane.

I wonder what the future of military combat fighters will look like and perform like.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:31 PM   #10
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I saw one of those at the West Malling Air Show back in the late 80s
I was sitting on top of my mate's dad's Sherpa van when it flew over at low altitude.

Damn those things where loud.
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Old 04-07-2008, 05:07 PM   #11
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They have a Vulcan on show at Cosford which is about 10 miles from where I live. Awesome looking piece of aircraft up close. Only ever dropped one payload in anger on the Falklands. Sent a message to the Argentinians: "The British are comming".
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:37 PM   #12
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Delta lady is very agile for a large aircraft

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soo4IhXthEg

her last flights before the storage and refurb

and one for OHP as he mentioned the,lightning - sadly the lightning will never be displayed in the UK , something about the big bulge undernearth being a fuel tank and belly landings turning into fireballs :P

The Vulcan is comparable to the B-47 Stratojet , not only in performance but weapons loadout (and actually age wise as well since both first flew within a year or 3 of each other)

the other `V` bombers were the older Vickers Valiant , which only lasted 10 years till it was retired (flaws were found ) and the very capable (and my favourite) the Handly Page Victor (bigger , faster and heavier bomb load to the vulcan)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVIHn5GdWhI
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:22 PM   #13
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first time in 17 years the big delta has been seen in public display

way to go everyone for making this happen.
I'm at home in Lincoln... was driving back home yesterday & it was doing some test flights overhead... amazing sight [thumbup]
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:23 PM   #14
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BTW... anyone from here going to Waddington air show?
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:25 PM   #15
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Ahh cool. So it was more of a swift quick aircraft, designed to go in fast and exit fast. Cause I somewhat doubt it would be an good in actual combat, it looks like it has poor maneuverability in comparison to standard jets. But I could be wrong there too

I take it that another advantage of these would be to fly extremely high where most other aircraft can not reach?
Wrong again lol :-P

You should have seen the tight turn it did yesterday... I was surprised!
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:15 PM   #16
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and one for OHP as he mentioned the,lightning - sadly the lightning will never be displayed in the UK , something about the big bulge undernearth being a fuel tank and belly landings turning into fireballs :P
Is this the plane that was a huge technical break through for intercepters, but lost contracts to the crap Lochhead intercepter due to bribeing the clients?
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:55 PM   #17
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Is this the plane that was a huge technical break through for intercepters, but lost contracts to the crap Lochhead intercepter due to bribeing the clients?
that was the TSR2.

and oddly enough the Vulcan was an engine test bed for that Aircraft.

if the TSR2 had made it into service I think it would be a different ball game these days with fighters/interceptors.


oh unless your talking about the phantom which was the lightnings replacement, but the lightning was just way too thirsty and had to be retired
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Old 04-08-2008, 01:33 AM   #18
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Its was the F-111 which got the TSR2 canned , much to the huge disappointment of australia who has also invested money in it , i have a video of the TSR going supersonic on 1 engine in reheat (out of 2) and leaving a lightning in its tracks - whislt the lightning had BOTH burners lit

it was a lockmark aircraft - the F-104 starfighter , far worse than the lightning but as was said , bribes were the reason it was sold over the lightning - but then again ohp is very right , the lightining has shocking fuel consumption - but since it can beat most aircraft to 50,000 feet , even today , it has to be good for something
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:58 AM   #19
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BTW... anyone from here going to Waddington air show?
I would have gone, but I have the RIAT 2008 next weekend. I'll be getting plenty of piccies of the old girl next week.

http://www.airtattoo.com/

Had my ticket back in February, when it was a fair bit cheaper. £45 on the day. [surrender]
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Old 04-08-2008, 03:04 AM   #20
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They have a Vulcan on show at Cosford which is about 10 miles from where I live. Awesome looking piece of aircraft up close. Only ever dropped one payload in anger on the Falklands. Sent a message to the Argentinians: "The British are comming".
I had a look round that Cold War Museum when I went to Cosford 08 air show. That's one amazing place. I couldn't believe how much stuff they've managed to cram into that place and still have plenty of room to look around. [thumbup]
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