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Old 09-12-2006, 03:03 AM   #1
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Hue adjustment

And yeah, that focus looks nice. Better than the punto
No not hue adjustment
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Old 09-12-2006, 04:36 AM   #2
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just beware going from a 14" to a 17 is gonna be a HUGE difference your gonna loose speed and will be harder to brake, and the ride will be considerably worse, you shouldnt really ever go more then a 2" jump
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Old 09-12-2006, 04:45 AM   #3
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just beware going from a 14" to a 17 is gonna be a HUGE difference your gonna loose speed and will be harder to brake, and the ride will be considerably worse, you shouldnt really ever go more then a 2" jump
lol [rofl]


So you have never had car with 17" rims ?
It's going to imrove the ride not make it worse...

But off course it depends on what you want...


And harder to brake? Where did you get that one from?
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Old 09-12-2006, 05:14 AM   #4
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improve the ride? dude wtf are you smoking 14" wheels will have like say 185 70 r14tires
if you went to 17" you'll have like 195 35 r17. you loose 3 inches of rubber, you basicaly riding on pure medal no rubber, the more rubber you have the better the ride is. a 17" wheel will be heavier then a 14" wheel and makes the car harder to brake and you dont get as good acceleration.
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Old 09-12-2006, 05:33 AM   #5
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improve the ride? dude wtf are you smoking 14" wheels will have like say 185 70 r14tires
if you went to 17" you'll have like 195 35 r17. you loose 3 inches of rubber, you basicaly riding on pure medal no rubber, the more rubber you have the better the ride is. a 17" wheel will be heavier then a 14" wheel and makes the car harder to brake and you dont get as good acceleration.
I was worried about this, basicly as far as I can tell from research if the engine is above a certain size/power then the difference between smaller and bigger wheels up to a point is negligable, aslong as the circumpherence(sp) is the same/similar.

My first car (Punto 1.2 8V) had 17's, the ride was fine, it was lowered too, albeit with crap springs, so it was a bit bad with big bumps but otherwise the ride was fine and it handled brilliant. It never made it harder to brake, it did slow it down a tad, but that's because it was a 1.2 8v lol

From my days in the FFOC forum it seems 17's are the way to go for handling and 18's for looks, apparently 18's are a little bit harsh over bumps but tbh it won't bother me, it's a zetec and the ride is stiff anyway. It's a 1.8 too so they wont affect performance much if atall.

They look sexy too dont they
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Old 09-12-2006, 05:56 AM   #6
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What a load of crap, why are Ford's more prone to be 'clocked back' than other cars? Knocking mileage off cars is rarely done these days.
I don't know why but at the same time looking for a cheap Ford around in the UK always turns up the few dodgy cars which have been clocked or at least something to hide. When I looked around for my first car, one Fiesta I looked at had a mileage depreciancy and had also been involved in an accident at sometime during its life. Several other Fords I considered looked dodgy as well.

So no, I personally don't believe it's crap at all. However at the same time there are good, clean examples to be found.
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:10 PM   #7
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improve the ride? dude wtf are you smoking 14" wheels will have like say 185 70 r14tires
if you went to 17" you'll have like 195 35 r17. you loose 3 inches of rubber, you basicaly riding on pure medal no rubber, the more rubber you have the better the ride is. a 17" wheel will be heavier then a 14" wheel and makes the car harder to brake and you dont get as good acceleration.


70 Profile really kills the handling of the car...

I have went from 185/65/14 to 215/40/17 for example and the ride improved greatly [yes]
And lol profile is not reported in inches, it's in % of the width of the tyre... [rolleyes]

And the traction improves a lot with wider tyre
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:13 PM   #8
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Hmm... for me, it depends. Do you have four wheel disk brakes? if you have drums on the rear, those weels would only expose dorky drums.

I never upgraded the alloys on my Paseo because of that reason, and they were nice alloys, not some crappy hubcap.

If you have disk brakes on the rear, I'm sure those wheels would look sharp. Since they're 17"s you might need to lower the car a bit afterwards to prevent the 4x4 look.

I've never purchased aftermarket wheels, so I can't say any more than that. I always try to get decent wheels from the dealership when I buy the car.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:28 PM   #9
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You've got to be careful with Fords IMO. If you have low mileage when put against alot of luxuries and a bigger engine, then there's always the possibility the mileage is clocked. There's without a doubt alot of dodgy cars from Ford out there when compared to other brands.

Shame really since Fords are generally very good.
when I had my lincoln i awlays played with my mileage lol, it had 140,000+ and i set it to 14,000 miles. a 1993 with 14,000 miles...thats unheard of
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:31 PM   #10
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Hmmm

The place I was going to get them for £550 +p&p doesnt have them, and doesnt know when their going to get any atall apparently. Motorworld do them for £680, which I suppose when you add p&p onto the other price isn't ALOT more.

The 17" version is £450 though, what one do you guys think looks better?

18's:


17's (This focus isn't lowered)


I personally think the extra inch really makes a difference, and I need people to agree with me to justify the price difference lol
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:45 PM   #11
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Personally, No.

Why?

1: It's a 5door.

2: It's dark green

3: It's not lowered

4: It has a tiny engine


I just think it'd be wise to save the money as it wont make your car look any better IMO and will just make it even slower. Infact it might make it look worse as 17's on family style suspension height is comical.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:59 PM   #12
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Personally, No.

Why?

1: It's a 5door.

2: It's dark green

3: It's not lowered

4: It has a tiny engine


I just think it'd be wise to save the money as it wont make your car look any better IMO and will just make it even slower. Infact it might make it look worse as 17's on family style suspension height is comical.
I beg to differ, the car looks great if it has 17+ rims with nice tires (Lowered of course) Its a nice little tuner car and looks better then the Honda Hatch, have us eent he new honda hatches htey look like **** cuz the front end looks like a minivans...wtf...!!



also collin mcrae used the ford focus as his raly car and it looked damned good
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:13 PM   #13
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Personally, No.

Why?

1: It's a 5door.

2: It's dark green

3: It's not lowered

4: It has a tiny engine


I just think it'd be wise to save the money as it wont make your car look any better IMO and will just make it even slower. Infact it might make it look worse as 17's on family style suspension height is comical.
Well you haven't read the thread because I'm getting it lowered, the pic that JPR altered for me is basicly how the car will look, lowered 30mm alround.

I don't think 1.8 is a tiny engine atall, especially not for an 18 year old and it shouldn't have a problem pushing bigger wheels.

The problem I was facing was the colour and the 5 doors, but the pic shows me that isnt really a problem, it really suits the wheels etc and looks far better than if I left it standard imo
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:18 PM   #14
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70 Profile really kills the handling of the car...

I have went from 185/65/14 to 215/40/17 for example and the ride improved greatly [yes]
And lol profile is not reported in inches, it's in % of the width of the tyre... [rolleyes]

And the traction improves a lot with wider tyre
I think you're getting ride and handling confused. There is no way larger wheels and lower profile tyres will give you a better ride. Grip and handling should be improved however.

I don't think Stealth said that profile is measured in inches. He just meant that you get less of a tyre wall with larger wheels and lower profile tyres... and it's that that contributes to a decrease in ride comfort.
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:51 PM   #15
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Good choice of car mate, I'm on my second Focus, a TDCi Sport. These are the standard alloys for my car and look very similar to those you have mentioned



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Old 10-12-2006, 12:34 AM   #16
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I think you're getting ride and handling confused. There is no way larger wheels and lower profile tyres will give you a better ride. Grip and handling should be improved however.

I don't think Stealth said that profile is measured in inches. He just meant that you get less of a tyre wall with larger wheels and lower profile tyres... and it's that that contributes to a decrease in ride comfort.
That is just a matter of opinion really... On a good road the ride is better with lower profile tyres IMO... But of course on a bad road big rims with low profile are not very comfortable... But actually the suspension makes a lot more difference there... It's like 90% suspension and 10% tyres mostly =P


And what comes to Stealth's comment. I think he really did mean that profile is measured in inches. He said lose 3 inches?
The difference between the profile in 185/65/15 and 215/45/17 for example is 2.3cm which is under ONE inch and the diameter of the tyre is about the same...
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Old 10-12-2006, 12:37 AM   #17
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Hmmm

I personally think the extra inch really makes a difference, and I need people to agree with me to justify the price difference lol
Definately go for the 18" ones. That's what I would do. Or actually I did
Well my car is a bigger sedan, but still...
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Old 10-12-2006, 12:41 AM   #18
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Definately go for the 18" ones. That's what I would do. Or actually I did
Well my car is a bigger sedan, but still...
Heh, atleast yours was a sedan. I slapped 18s on my VW Golf [surrender] I went from the stock 15s and I can definitely say the ride is much improved. It's not really any bumpier than it felt before and the handling is waaayyyy better. I can't even make the tires skid. I did have to lower it though, but I am glad I did. Just make sure you get good springs...I got some Eibach's and like them quite a bit [thumbup]
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Old 10-12-2006, 01:30 AM   #19
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we should call it "ghey green", dark green could be confused by noobs with british racing green
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Old 10-12-2006, 04:18 AM   #20
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me friends civic he had stock 15" and he bought 16" enkies sp? and the ride was so bad compared that he sold them and bought 15" stock honda alloys. the handleing was ALOt better but the ride was terrible, in all fairness thothe tires were z rated and were hard as a rock. so no its not 90% suspension 10% wheels tires cause you can dramaticay change the quality of the ride just by changing the tires
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