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Old 05-30-2010, 01:16 AM   #21
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lol yea true cause the dogs could dig under kennels so that makes sense. its a pretty damn cool set up thats for sure!
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:40 AM   #22
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if done correctly using the correct materials the cable set up is far safer,cheaper and effective than any other way of keeping dogs......as with a chain/axle set up the weak link is the collar......i dont like the idea of wooden posts as wood will be chewed through in time...infact ive never used anything wood not even the kennel.....scaffold poles buried 4 feet in concrete work just fine......the rest you can make as complicated as you like but simplicity works best.
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Old 05-30-2010, 04:36 PM   #23
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another question is, how expensive is something like that? would it be the same or cheaper to have chain link kennel runs up instead?
cable runs like that are way cheaper than a decent kennel set up. an 85' x 16' cable run costs us about $150-$200 after buying all supplies. high quality pulleys & stainless steel hardware cost a bit more, but are probably the most important part. that and a good hurricane collar. we've replaced pulleys every year - to be safe, and chain & collars 1x now in 4 years.
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Old 05-30-2010, 06:45 PM   #24
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That is awesome (not feasible for some of us City dwellers) But Fuck if that's not a dream set up.
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:00 PM   #25
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I had runner set-ups very similar to those & abandoned them due to a high hardware failure rate. The zip line runners would wear out & break very often & you have to make absolutely sure that the anchor posts are very strong or they will give too. Those type set-ups look great & they work for some people, but I just went back to a regular chain set-up.

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Old 05-30-2010, 07:26 PM   #26
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the main reason the cable set up is bullet proof compared to chain/axle set ups is ground dirt does not interfere with any moving parts.....the abrasiveness of ground dirt in chains is what normally leads to failure over time......
of course the hardware of the cable set up has to be correct......and it needs careful thought....but that extra thought will pay dividends when you see the condition a dog will hold on a cable and its naturally happier healthier nature.
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:52 PM   #27
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I have dogs on this type of setup and there are many downfalls. It is NOT as secure as a chain setup. My dogs are on them because chainspots are not allowed where I live. I have spent countless money doing upgrades, you'd be surprised how much those things break down from wear and tear.
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:17 PM   #28
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I have dogs on this type of setup and there are many downfalls. It is NOT as secure as a chain setup. My dogs are on them because chainspots are not allowed where I live. I have spent countless money doing upgrades, you'd be surprised how much those things break down from wear and tear.
if you use a flimsy little chain not strong enough to hold a cat would you say the chain set up in general " is not secure " ?.....

use poor materials on any set up and it will fail....use the correct materials on a chain set up and in time it will still fail......use the correct materials on a cable set up and it will rarely fail.

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heres a picture somebody sent me a while ago who used both set ups chain and cable........a cable does not wear through a dirt/weather combination being off the ground......whereas this chain link is ready to fail.
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Old 05-30-2010, 11:09 PM   #29
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i use a cable run for one dog and my other mutt is on a chain that is connected to an underground anchor
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:34 AM   #30
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if you use a flimsy little chain not strong enough to hold a cat would you say the chain set up in general " is not secure " ?.....

use poor materials on any set up and it will fail....use the correct materials on a chain set up and in time it will still fail......use the correct materials on a cable set up and it will rarely fail.

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heres a picture somebody sent me a while ago who used both set ups chain and cable........a cable does not wear through a dirt/weather combination being off the ground......whereas this chain link is ready to fail.
I do not use flimsy ANYTHING on my dog, am constantly switching hardware and always look for improvements. I have tried chain setups and I have tried runners. In MY experience chain setups are far superior. If you like runners, then continue to use them. I do NOT think they are better. The only benefit I have found is less mud.

I have multiple dogs and I just do not think runners are the best option, but if you must use them they can be a pretty good setup.

I think ANY setup, chain or cable, will eventually need to be replaced. I would love to see pictures of multiple dogs (20 plus) using a runner successfully with better results than a yard of chainspots. I have had 0 (zero) dogs get off of a correctly put together chain spot, and I have had a couple get off the runners. Please post what you feel is a superior runner setup, I would love to put it together and give it a shot.
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:56 AM   #31
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im sure there are pictures of his yard somewhere on the internet,look for yourself at rod kershners set up,i think he,s down to around 30 now but there was a time when he had 100 plus dogs on cables and it was an excellent set up.

look im not saying one is better than the other as a fact its what works for you.....but what is a fact is all materials being equal.....a cable WILL NOT fail through a dirt/weather combination like a chain does,the main failings in a chain are erosion of the links hence the phrase " weakest link ".....of course if you check every link every week thats not an issue but to check every link of 100 chains on a weekly basis is unrealistic.

but as you say.....if it works for you great,......."if its not broke it dont need fixing "
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:24 PM   #32
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My neighbour had his boxers out on a cable setup like that. He came home to a dog that had managed to hang itself.
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:36 PM   #33
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I saw this picture, and I took it from someones myspace, why not contain dogs this way? I thought it was pretty damn awesome set up!!

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Old 05-31-2010, 05:57 PM   #34
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I think ANY setup, chain or cable, will eventually need to be replaced. I would love to see pictures of multiple dogs (20 plus) using a runner successfully with better results than a yard of chainspots. I have had 0 (zero) dogs get off of a correctly put together chain spot, and I have had a couple get off the runners. Please post what you feel is a superior runner setup, I would love to put it together and give it a shot.
think i can count more than 20
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Old 05-31-2010, 05:59 PM   #35
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I have a newbie question... what size chain would I need for a 60 lb dog?
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Old 05-31-2010, 06:49 PM   #36
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think i can count more than 20

YouTube- KERSHNERS DOG TOWN
Not a bad setup. I dislike the bullsnaps, my dogs tear them up all the time. I would love to try his way of mounting the wire into the ground, it's interesting but I would like to see the wear and tear on the areas it goes through the wood.

As stated before, less mud which is a definite plus, but still a setup that needs to be monitored just like ANY other one, with possible downfalls. I also have dogs that will jump and pull on the runner cable. Also have dogs that will chew away at any wood. So it depends on the particular dogs on the runner, the quality of the setup, and the diligence of the owner in maintenance.
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Old 05-31-2010, 07:37 PM   #37
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I like how the first thing I noticed is the pittie with a docked tail and thought WTF Its a really nice setup wish I could do that
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Old 05-31-2010, 07:47 PM   #38
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My old dog (irish setter) Bugsy Malone was on a chain set up like that...zip line we called it? Its still there, I hook D to it when we go to my moms.

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the zip line has been up through three dogs now, irish setter, boxer, and my bull dog mix, mind you this is no dog on the chain spot full time, its been about 8 years and needed no repairs.
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:56 PM   #39
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I have always had both. I like my lighter weight females on the zip line better than my heavy pulling males.
Any aparatus chain or zip needs regular maintenence but a Good chain set up is safer than a zip line JMHO.
But like I said I do have both.


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Old 05-31-2010, 10:37 PM   #40
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I would like to send up something like that for, at least, Locus. She will be my "guinea pig" on that. lol.
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