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Old 03-01-2010, 01:48 AM   #1
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Despite absorbing mixture from Europeans and Native Americans, New World peoples of African descent are a subset of African diversity, not tri-racials nor mulattoes.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:04 AM   #2
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Despite absorbing mixture from Europeans and Native Americans, New World peoples of African descent are a subset of African diversity, not tri-racials nor mulattoes.
Find me a native African who looks like Snoop Dogg or Charles Barkley, it was proven in the DNA tests they did that they were only 71 and 75% sub saharan African, thus tri racial. Snopp was 23% Amerindian, does having one grandparent of another race not make you tri racial?
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:09 AM   #3
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Find me a native African who looks like Snoop Dogg or Charles Barkley, it was proven in the DNA tests they did that they were only 71 and 75% sub saharan African, thus tri racial. Snopp was 23% Amerindian, does having one grandparent of another race not make you tri racial?
Snoop: http://www.danheller.com/images/Afri...i-girl-big.jpg

Charles(ish): http://www.nma.gov.au/shared/librari...262-vi-vs1.jpg

I think the Game might onto something on some real sh*t. After all, Russians are considered a part of Caucasian diversity and many have very apparent mongoloid admixture.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:10 AM   #4
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To find a look-alike of Jennifer Beals in Africa would be even harder.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:17 AM   #5
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To find a look-alike of Jennifer Beals in Africa would be even harder.
Yeah, and she's hardly phenotypically "Black." 1/4 or less anyway. However I'm sure it's be hella easy in North Africa.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:17 AM   #6
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Find me a native African who looks like Snoop Dogg or Charles Barkley, it was proven in the DNA tests they did that they were only 71 and 75% sub saharan African, thus tri racial. Snopp was 23% Amerindian, does having one grandparent of another race not make you tri racial?
Snoop Dog and Charles Barkley if you measured up the their skulls would significantly overlap with sub-Saharans still because they hasn't bee enough time of separation between Aframs and SSAs to where a large enough distinction could be made. Besides, its not like Snoop and Barkley are straddling the periphery of being either European or SSA, they're both obviously far closer to the latter than to the former.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:18 AM   #7
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Snoop: http://www.danheller.com/images/Afri...i-girl-big.jpg

Charles(ish): http://www.nma.gov.au/shared/librari...262-vi-vs1.jpg

I think the Game might onto something on some real sh*t. After all, Russians are considered a part of Caucasian diversity and many have very apparent mongoloid admixture.
Not even close, neither of those people look anything like Barkly or Snoop, especially the Khoisan man who is another race entirely. There are elongated Africans like Snoop Dogg, but his non Negroid blood is apparent in his straight facial hair and very gracile features like this man

True ethnic Russians btw are rarely more then 1 or 2% Mongoloid in their genetic makeup
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:20 AM   #8
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Yeah, and she's hardly phenotypically "Black." 1/4 or less anyway.
She's straddling the periphery and is slightly off-black. Still, she's no European and falls within the range of "Aframs" but on its outer periphery.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:20 AM   #9
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Snoop Dog and Charles Barkley if you measured up the their skulls would significantly overlap with sub-Saharans still because they hasn't bee enough time of separation between Aframs and SSAs to where a large enough distinction could be made. Besides, its not like Snoop and Barkley are straddling the periphery of being either European or SSA, they're both obviously far closer to the latter than to the former.
Far closer, yes, but a "sub-set" like the blacks of Mauritius or even parts of south America and the Carribean, not so much IMO. Their phenotypic variation is far too great
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:23 AM   #10
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Find me a native African who looks like Snoop Dogg or Charles Barkley, it was proven in the DNA tests they did that they were only 71 and 75% sub saharan African, thus tri racial. Snopp was 23% Amerindian, does having one grandparent of another race not make you tri racial?
eritrean and snoop together:

http://nipseyhussle.files.wordpress..../nip-snoop.jpg

This fulani man looks a lot like Snoop too.

http://mathildasanthropologyblog.fil...odaabe-man.jpg
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:24 AM   #11
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Despite absorbing mixture from Europeans and Native Americans, New World peoples of African descent are a subset of African diversity, not tri-racials nor mulattoes.
I think new world african descents are both. With various degrees of mixture from other groups and combinations of mostly West Africans Central SW and East Africans.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:24 AM   #12
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Not even close, neither of those people look anything like Barkly or Snoop, especially the Khoisan man who is another race entirely. There are elongated Africans like Snoop Dogg, but his non Negroid blood is apparent in his straight facial hair and very gracile features like this man

True ethnic Russians btw are rarely more then 1 or 2% Mongoloid in their genetic makeup
Snoop looks no different than a Sahelian or a Saharan and people of his type came straight from Africa to America on slave ships. Aframs are a mixture of different African types who absorbed and assimilated some European and Native American blood. Gracile features are not uncommon among SSAs anyways.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:26 AM   #13
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She's straddling the periphery and is slightly off-black. Still, she's no European and falls within the range of "Aframs" but on its outer periphery.
Word, I think she could pass for med tho (go figure).

http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/6...0229165106.jpg
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:28 AM   #14
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Far closer, yes, but a "sub-set" like the blacks of Mauritius or even parts of south America and the Carribean, not so much IMO. Their phenotypic variation is far too great
New World Peoples of African descent phenotypic variantion overlaps strongly with the phenotypic diversity of Africans. Only a small amount of them will overlap with Europeans and those straddle the periphery.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:30 AM   #15
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New World Peoples of African descent phenotypic variantion overlaps strongly with the phenotypic diversity of Africans. Only a small amount of them will overlap with Europeans and those straddle the periphery.
Seems quite logical. Hardly worth a Nobel prize, though.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:35 AM   #16
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Snoop looks no different than a Sahelian or a Saharan and people of his type came straight from Africa to America on slave ships. Aframs are a mixture of different African types who absorbed and assimilated some European and Native American blood. Gracile features are not uncommon among SSAs anyways.
I agree.
In 2008 Freeman's family history was profiled on the PBS series African American Lives 2. A DNA test showed that he is descended from the Songhai and Tuareg peoples of Niger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Freeman
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:37 AM   #17
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I think new world african descents are both. With various degrees of mixture from other groups and combinations of mostly West Africans Central SW and East Africans.
True so called "tri-racials" are more the exception amongst NWPOAD. IMO, this is how NWPOAD cluster:

Aframs and Afro-Caribbeans like Haitians, Jamaicans, Bajans, Grenadians, Martinicans for example cluster closer together with not much of a huge difference between them. Dominicans, are more like the intermediates, but obviously closer to Aframs and Afro-Caribbeans. next come Afro-Brazilians who just about straddle the line perfectly, but slight to the Afram-Afro Caribbean side. Puerto-Ricans straddle the periphery and have the most overlap with Europeans and Native Americans.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:40 AM   #18
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True so called "tri-racials" are more the exception amongst NWPOAD. IMO, this is how NWPOAD cluster:

Aframs and Afro-Caribbeans like Haitians, Jamaicans, Bajans, Grenadians, Martinicans for example cluster closer together with not much of a huge difference between them. Dominicans, are more like the intermediates, but obviously closer to Aframs and Afro-Caribbeans. next come Afro-Brazilians who just about straddle the line perfectly, but slight to the Afram-Afro Caribbean side. Puerto-Ricans straddle the periphery and have the most overlap with Europeans and Native Americans.
Afro-latino decendants are to racially mixed to be a subset african variety, you got to be on crack to believe this.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:42 AM   #19
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Perfect correspondence like this:


Africans-------Afro-Caribbeans--Aframs----------------Dominicans--------Afro-Brazilians-----------------Puerto-Ricans


In that order, Ricans maybe be closer to Afro-Brazilians
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:45 AM   #20
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Perfect correspondence like this:


Africans----------Afro-Caribbeans--Aframs-----------Dominicans--------Afro-Brazilians---------------------------Puerto-Ricans


In that order, Ricans maybe be closer to Afro-Brazilians
Afro-latino decendants don't look like AA or English speaking carribeans.
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