[atmowasia]

I have been in Bkk. with my wife now since last Friday we are living in a town house in sparser part of the city, I have never seen police car/truck ever drive through these sois, so if there is any problem whom can a farang call?...especialy if he/she does not speak any Thai. And the problem is that one of the neighbors is playing music way too loud..up til 11 p.m....and even up till 1 a.m. at times-as my wife tells me. So what are the laws & regulations about excessive noise in Bangkok?...are there any noise curfews as in U,S, cities?...And how do you get police to enforce the laws especialy if you are a farang, since they barely enforce the law when a Bkk. native calls them to complain?(as Nooch tells me)

[twiffatticy]

I have been in Bkk. with my wife now since last Friday we are living in a town house in sparser part of the city, I have never seen police car/truck ever drive through these sois, so if there is any problem whom can a farang call?...especialy if he/she does not speak any Thai. And the problem is that one of the neighbors is playing music way too loud..up til 11 p.m....and even up till 1 a.m. at times-as my wife tells me. So what are the laws & regulations about excessive noise in Bangkok?...are there any noise curfews as in U,S, cities?...And how do you get police to enforce the laws especialy if you are a farang, since they barely enforce the law when a Bkk. native calls them to complain?(as Nooch tells me)

Welcome to Thailand

[ireleda]

You are just screwed, There is nothing you can do except fall back on the great Thai feeling of Consideration,, which by the way is non existent here, it runs with Logic thinking of which is also non existent to them.
They have those all nite noisy party's here, just finished another 2 days ago for my Fil who died almost 2 years ago, big sound truck with a $10 sound system and speakers the size of a van with a normal watt capacity or 20 watts and running them at 100 watts, people setting in the street at tables so the road was plugged off and they had to U turn and go back 5 KM and around the other way, but their permit was for 2230 shut down of noise, but a 100 baht backhand to the issuing cop and it ran til 2340, I asked my wife, the speakers and band stand they also set up blocking the street was right where my driveway enters the street, why with people 100 feet from the speakers, do they have to have the auto generated base set on full volume at all times so it is thumping along with the same staccato drum beat and no music tapes in and have everything turned up so high that people 3 KM away are kept awake by the volume, why not turn it down to a listening range of 100 feet.?
They can't answer those questions, so you get a "Well it is our tradition to play it loud" and how the hell it become a tradition when they have not had the ability to have those electronics for a long enough time to become a Tradition.
I had never lived in a moo ban village before, she wanted to get married and move to her home where she lived and taught school, I lived in a gated community compound in the North of CM on a quiet cul d sac out by San Sai,, nice new house, way to big for me anyway, but cheap and peaceful, so I listened to her, believed her how peaceful this village is and I have never lived in such a noisy hell hole in my life, even LA, Pittsburg, Oakland, Portland Seattle, none compare with this place,, Not even Saigon can hold a candle to this place, Even tho I have invested a bit of dosh in Thailand, if the Baht goes much higher, the bad will have way surpassed the advantages of living here and I will go back and maybe return to Mexico as as noisy and dangerous as it is, it is preferable to here, and the last 2 prez in that country have straightened it out a lot or so I heard from my lifelong friend that now lives close to Cabo San Lucas and has offered me his new "Sancho House" he just finished,,[kind of a guest cabin or Mil house]..

[twiffatticy]

You are just screwed, There is nothing you can do except fall back on the great Thai feeling of Consideration,, which by the way is non existent here, it runs with Logic thinking of which is also non existent to them.
They have those all nite noisy party's here, just finished another 2 days ago for my Fil who died almost 2 years ago, big sound truck with a $10 sound system and speakers the size of a van with a normal watt capacity or 20 watts and running them at 100 watts, people setting in the street at tables so the road was plugged off and they had to U turn and go back 5 KM and around the other way, but their permit was for 2230 shut down of noise, but a 100 baht backhand to the issuing cop and it ran til 2340, I asked my wife, the speakers and band stand they also set up blocking the street was right where my driveway enters the street, why with people 100 feet from the speakers, do they have to have the auto generated base set on full volume at all times so it is thumping along with the same staccato drum beat and no music tapes in and have everything turned up so high that people 3 KM away are kept awake by the volume, why not turn it down to a listening range of 100 feet.?
They can't answer those questions, so you get a "Well it is our tradition to play it loud" and how the hell it become a tradition when they have not had the ability to have those electronics for a long enough time to become a Tradition.
I had never lived in a moo ban village before, she wanted to get married and move to her home where she lived and taught school, I lived in a gated community compound in the North of CM on a quiet cul d sac out by San Sai,, nice new house, way to big for me anyway, but cheap and peaceful, so I listened to her, believed her how peaceful this village is and I have never lived in such a noisy hell hole in my life, even LA, Pittsburg, Oakland, Portland Seattle, none compare with this place,, Not even Saigon can hold a candle to this place, Even tho I have invested a bit of dosh in Thailand, if the Baht goes much higher, the bad will have way surpassed the advantages of living here and I will go back and maybe return to Mexico as as noisy and dangerous as it is, it is preferable to here, and the last 2 prez in that country have straightened it out a lot or so I heard from my lifelong friend that now lives close to Cabo San Lucas and has offered me his new "Sancho House" he just finished,,[kind of a guest cabin or Mil house]..

We went to an upcountry funeral a while back, the loudspeakers were set up only a few metres from the guest tables, the noise level was unbelievable! you had to shout into the ear of person sitting next to you to make yourself understood, the tables shook and the water in the glasses rippled!! Unbelievable!! It was loud enough to wake the dead, hey! perhaps that's why they do it. After 45 minutes I had a pounding headache and had to retire defeated. The whole thing was absurd.

[thakitt]

Another action to finish this kind of problem

Six killed, 2 injured following noisy drinking party in Songkhla

Songkhla - Three men and three women were killed and two other were injured when an angry neighbour opened fire at them while they were drinking and singing late Saturday night, police said.

The shooting took place at about midnight at a small pavilion inside the house of the victims in Songkhla's Hat Yai district.

Five of them died at the scene after being shot at their neck or head. Another died at the Raj Yindee Hospital.

The Nation

[timmybrown]

Songkhla - Three men and three women were killed and two other were injured when an angry neighbour opened fire at them while they were drinking and singing late Saturday night, police said.

Wow! The singing must be really bad!

[twiffatticy]

Another action to finish this kind of problem

Six killed, 2 injured following noisy drinking party in Songkhla

Songkhla - Three men and three women were killed and two other were injured when an angry neighbour opened fire at them while they were drinking and singing late Saturday night, police said.

The shooting took place at about midnight at a small pavilion inside the house of the victims in Songkhla's Hat Yai district.

Five of them died at the scene after being shot at their neck or head. Another died at the Raj Yindee Hospital.

The Nation

Thais will put up with almost anything but when they do snap it's a good idea to be somewhere else.

[ireleda]

when a permit is issued the cops know what street will be closed off and the place of the party, so they should go around the neighborhood and issue AK 47s that have been taken away from drug dealers and issue them the the residents of the area, with plenty of ammo, might just do a little civilizing and bring to the fore some consideration around here in a short while.
I do know that after just a short while of that noise that shakes the images on my monitor screen, vibrated the lights, as you say makes water crest in a pitcher, and my dog set and cry, I do get a little phsyco sometimes.
I am awfully glad to hear about that, thanks for the post..should be a daily news item here in LOS [land of shouts]

[timmybrown]

I do know that after just a short while of that noise that shakes the images on my monitor screen, vibrated the lights, as you say makes water crest in a pitcher, and my dog set and cry, I do get a little phsyco sometimes.

To be fair, I have very quiet neighbours as most of them are in some kinda businesses. They go to sleep probably around 10 and wake up at 5 or 6. Its pretty quiet around my neighbourhood by 10pm. My only problem is with the barking and howling stray dogs in the middle of the night.

[QxmFwtlam]

Here is a picture of a sound truck. Very very very loud.

[QXCharles]

You are just screwed, There is nothing you can do except fall back on the great Thai feeling of Consideration,, which by the way is non existent here, it runs with Logic thinking of which is also non existent to them...

Oh please. Your words show nothing but your bias and prejudice attitude towards Thai people. Anytime you lump a group of people as "them" you have already drawn a line in the sand. Some of the MOST considerate people I have ever met are Thai. It is not to say there are those that are not, but to categorize them all like you did is ridiculous. All of the Thai students that study in the west that I have met are very very polite and considerate. My fiance is Thai and I would never think of ever going out with a western woman after living with her.
It sounds like the only person making emotional decisions is you.

[ireleda]

You do not live here, you have never lived here from what you post, so you have no idea what happens if you live here 24/7 for 52 weeks a year, year in and year out
You have said that what you know of a very small area of BKK and that does not mean much of the country except the entertainment area of Soi Cowboy or NaNa.

And I can believe that the Thai you know in the USA would dare not do as they do here or they would be in the slammer for noise pollution, and when released from jail the first might be deported or second time would be for sure.

You have nothing except what goes on in your to very liberal mind and have no real life experiences to base your thinking on, except maybe what you read in Planet Earth and that is no real reference to what life is about.

[QxmFwtlam]

Comon guys. Thailand is a big place, there are people with all sorts of behavior. Depending on where you live here in Thailand or whom you meet overseas, you get what you soak in. Stress free people are nice people. Unfortunately, Thailand is a place turning into a struggle for most. Everyday, most Thais here live with the only thought of “I need money to pay rent, I need money to be rich, I need money to pay for sick buffalo on mum’s farm etc etc”. Is not a simple happy life here for Thais anymore with increasing standard of living but the same salary scales for the past decade for most. Simple and happy is a thing of the past, very very past. The tussle for survival has changed many. Generally at their roots, Thai people are nice people. But society changes everything. Generally at all human kind roots, we are nice people.

In Bangkok, some days I meet nice people, and some days I meet unpleasant ones. Sunday morning I witnessed 2 taxi drivers cutting each other and eventually getting out throwing punches at the junction in front of Fortune Center at 3am. We can’t classify Thai people as “Nice” or “Nasty”. It is all 50/50, maybe yes maybe no, yes and no, same same as other country but different.

[ireleda]

I have noticed some changes since I started to come here, and you are correct, it ain't what it used to be, but only the peoples attitudes have changed, they are not the outgoing folks they once were, to much money coming from to many people and everyone here wants to get some from everyone that comes here.
it happens every where this tourism starts, you see I am old enough to have moved around the world before it was all tourists that traveled and most folks strayed home and worked and went to the mountains or sea coast for 2 weeks a year, never got a thousand miles from home.
Then the travel boom set in and people was coming from all over, "OH Ain't she a cute little girl,,Buy a fish from her and I take a pic of ya" "Yea I got the pic, now give her some money,No Not A nickle, give her a buck, she looks like she needs it" so next time the little girl sold a fish she got a buck &1/2 from the farang tourist, and it has went from there, if the guy had of been smart, she would have sold the fish for a nickle and he paid a nickle and then things would have still been cool.
Thailand wanted protection from communism coming from Laos and Cambodia, so they invited the US military in to build bases and bomb the commies on the other side of the western borders, so they did and a bunch of guys came over here and ended up liking it and the people, and they also helped to change the attitude of the people, mainly from from being to young and to free with their money, people got used to it and to this day want more of it and also want the farangs out of here so to make room for more tourists that do not live all year on the money in their pockets but come here with a suitcase full and dump it and leave.
But to get back on topic, I am on some other forums that are here, and there is great interest in the shooter at that noisy party, he is in great demand if his services ever come to be available to the general public, lots of work for him from what I see.

[SeftyJokipl]

I think when you are not too rich and you live off community celeberations, people generally are full of adrenalin when the time comes and the noise of the speakers just does not match up to their excitement. And is kind of welcome base to the excitement. Think of kids, they can revel in madness around them. Of course, this is a problem when you have more and more people who do not connect with this celeberation.

Do you think my theory could be right?

[Baromaro]

Actually thais seem to be somewhat indifferent to loud noise. Like I call my wife and she got the radio or TV on HIGH volume, we cant barely hear each other. Yet she makes no effort to turn down the volume or move somewhere else, I usually have to ask her to do it and she sounds surprised every time.

This usually happen a few times every week.

[atmowasia]

[COLOR="Blue"]Mr.Sved I agree with you,most people can adopt to just about any kind of abnormal surroundings-we humans are most adaptable creatures that God ever created-even loud noise(music), but it still is harmful to us, psychologicaly and physicaly, for all sounds above 100 decibells are phisically painful to us, and prolonged exposure to very loud music/sounds does damage our hearings,...so if my neighbors don't care about their hearing & mental health and their behaviour starts affecting my health, then I guess I have to start objecting,.....though I would never do it with a gun but legaly with help of police

[adultcheee]

Actually thais seem to be somewhat indifferent to loud noise. ......

Please forgive me if a perform any political correctness faux pas, but ....


I feel it's a bit of the "Mai pen rai" in action. There is nothing that can be done, so they have long been able to simply accept and ignore it.

I also believe that many can focus very narrowly. Often, there will be 3 or 4 sources blasting away around the hood. One will be Issan, another morlam, another pop and then there's a TV! Unfortunately, I can't focus tightly enough and the mixture makes me nuts.

I can't "fix" others, so I am left with adjusting myself.

My solution was premium windows and doors. I batten down the hatches, crank up the fans, and most of the problem is gone!

At night, when the base riffs sometime resonate through, I add a couple memory-foam earplugs!

Welcome to Thailand!

[ireleda]

but legaly with help of police Hunsolo-I can see that you live in the USA, because with a statement like that you sure do not live in Thailand..

Sved said --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually thais seem to be somewhat indifferent to loud noise. Not in my areas of Thailand where I have ever been, Thai give you the dog eye for speaking above a whisper, A lot of belly aching about Those loud Farang, hear that all the time and even see it posted on these forums by Steve Cleary for just one.
I have been around gun fire and heavy machinery and very large Engines, my hearing has been bad since my first hearing test in 1960, so I do talk loud but not only hearing wise but because I have spent my life in heavy noise, but it is different than heavy music noise and it is not an option unless you shut down the engines and then trains, ships and dredges stop functioning.
My wife and kid have the TV so low I can not hear it at all so I come and fool around on the PC, and they come in and I am watching TV news they bitch that it is to loud,, So no in my experience, Thai Just turn er up to show that they can as some sort of Face or status symbol,, "See, I got enough to drive every dog in the village crazy, I can bust the windows outta your house,, wish I had more, make me a bigger person"

Curt- I can't "fix" others, so I am left with adjusting myself.

My solution was premium windows and doors. I batten down the hatches, crank up the fans, and most of the problem is gone! But thats part of it,,If they had any consideration then you would not have to do such things. But you will find no one with even 1 iota of it here in this country at any time for any reason..

[adultcheee]

And I though I was cranky!