[ireleda]

You are just screwed, There is nothing you can do except fall back on the great Thai feeling of Consideration,, which by the way is non existent here, it runs with Logic thinking of which is also non existent to them.
They have those all nite noisy party's here, just finished another 2 days ago for my Fil who died almost 2 years ago, big sound truck with a $10 sound system and speakers the size of a van with a normal watt capacity or 20 watts and running them at 100 watts, people setting in the street at tables so the road was plugged off and they had to U turn and go back 5 KM and around the other way, but their permit was for 2230 shut down of noise, but a 100 baht backhand to the issuing cop and it ran til 2340, I asked my wife, the speakers and band stand they also set up blocking the street was right where my driveway enters the street, why with people 100 feet from the speakers, do they have to have the auto generated base set on full volume at all times so it is thumping along with the same staccato drum beat and no music tapes in and have everything turned up so high that people 3 KM away are kept awake by the volume, why not turn it down to a listening range of 100 feet.?
They can't answer those questions, so you get a "Well it is our tradition to play it loud" and how the hell it become a tradition when they have not had the ability to have those electronics for a long enough time to become a Tradition.
I had never lived in a moo ban village before, she wanted to get married and move to her home where she lived and taught school, I lived in a gated community compound in the North of CM on a quiet cul d sac out by San Sai,, nice new house, way to big for me anyway, but cheap and peaceful, so I listened to her, believed her how peaceful this village is and I have never lived in such a noisy hell hole in my life, even LA, Pittsburg, Oakland, Portland Seattle, none compare with this place,, Not even Saigon can hold a candle to this place, Even tho I have invested a bit of dosh in Thailand, if the Baht goes much higher, the bad will have way surpassed the advantages of living here and I will go back and maybe return to Mexico as as noisy and dangerous as it is, it is preferable to here, and the last 2 prez in that country have straightened it out a lot or so I heard from my lifelong friend that now lives close to Cabo San Lucas and has offered me his new "Sancho House" he just finished,,[kind of a guest cabin or Mil house]..

[johnsonjunior]

noisy is the Thai way, no getting around it. we live on the cornor of a cross road and the trucks and motorbikes roar is a constant,with or without mufflers. The wat across the street is where the funerals happen and the music is loud for the three days, but what really got me was when the village chief put up a loud speaker on the telephone pole right across from our house and at 6am they blast the national anthem and village news at dissorted levels Quite is not a thing I would call Thailand..but hey I'm dam near deaf anyways and my sweet Thai wife makes up for it in the long run
Dee

[timmybrown]

I do know that after just a short while of that noise that shakes the images on my monitor screen, vibrated the lights, as you say makes water crest in a pitcher, and my dog set and cry, I do get a little phsyco sometimes.

To be fair, I have very quiet neighbours as most of them are in some kinda businesses. They go to sleep probably around 10 and wake up at 5 or 6. Its pretty quiet around my neighbourhood by 10pm. My only problem is with the barking and howling stray dogs in the middle of the night.

[thakitt]

Another action to finish this kind of problem

Six killed, 2 injured following noisy drinking party in Songkhla

Songkhla - Three men and three women were killed and two other were injured when an angry neighbour opened fire at them while they were drinking and singing late Saturday night, police said.

The shooting took place at about midnight at a small pavilion inside the house of the victims in Songkhla's Hat Yai district.

Five of them died at the scene after being shot at their neck or head. Another died at the Raj Yindee Hospital.

The Nation

[atmowasia]

[COLOR="Blue"]Mr.Curt, in response to your statement about those brutal car trunk boom boxes (I heard only one of those here in Bkk.) I guess you still have problems with those senseless extroverts, there where you live in U.S...but not here in Chicago. For years tthey were terrorising our streets here, even untill 4 a.m.until citizens realy got fed up with and forced the city to pass extremely strong regulations, like every one of ...these law breakers with boomboxes in their trunks...got their cars impounded on the spot, by police, and to get their cars out, they had to pay fines-not sure of how much-maybe like 500$. ...And as the city car pounds were filling up...these rude obnoxious individuals started realising that they CAN NOT do just as they please and live in the society with others,...and today you can not hear even ONE of those boom boxes even before the noise curfew at 11 p.m. starts, though in the day time you can still hear one on occassion-mostly illegal Mexicans, who believe that these boomboxes are illegal only after 11 p.m.....And I do know that when there is loud music problem in my area/close to my home, and I call police, they do come and quiet down these over loud inconsiderate people/COLOR]

[Baromaro]

Actually thais seem to be somewhat indifferent to loud noise. Like I call my wife and she got the radio or TV on HIGH volume, we cant barely hear each other. Yet she makes no effort to turn down the volume or move somewhere else, I usually have to ask her to do it and she sounds surprised every time.

This usually happen a few times every week.

[ireleda]

i don't mind noise from cars motor
bikes etc. You might here tho, They take the mufflers off, some "Farm Car" trucks built on special under carriages with a single cyl. diesel engine, of which our village has many do not use mufflers, but short pipes that have a 2 or 3 meter length of 3 inch pipe for a resonator tube that amplifies the sound of the cyl. firing into loud gun shot Bangs.
or for hiway trucks that have a 6 meter long straight pipe running to the back of the truck that does the same as the pipe on the farm cars, and you can hear them very well for 5 minutes going by our village at night and the hiway is about a Km from our house at the closest point.
Thailand has many types of pollution and most are bad and nothing is ever done about them, but noise pollution is one that just seems to go on forever and is not ever talked about or considered anything but Thai custom or tradition.
I do know one thing, if I had had any inkling of what it would be like here before I married my wife and moved here to the Moo Ban and spent most of my savings on building this house, I would have stayed in the states or moved back to Mexico.
But the house I had rented in the Moo Ban at CM was never anything like living around a bunch of regular Thai in a village, I liked it there, and they did not even allow the idiocy of Songkhran to go unchecked inside the walls of the community, altho I never saw many farang that lived there.

[ireleda]

You do not live here, you have never lived here from what you post, so you have no idea what happens if you live here 24/7 for 52 weeks a year, year in and year out
You have said that what you know of a very small area of BKK and that does not mean much of the country except the entertainment area of Soi Cowboy or NaNa.

And I can believe that the Thai you know in the USA would dare not do as they do here or they would be in the slammer for noise pollution, and when released from jail the first might be deported or second time would be for sure.

You have nothing except what goes on in your to very liberal mind and have no real life experiences to base your thinking on, except maybe what you read in Planet Earth and that is no real reference to what life is about.

[twiffatticy]

Another action to finish this kind of problem

Six killed, 2 injured following noisy drinking party in Songkhla

Songkhla - Three men and three women were killed and two other were injured when an angry neighbour opened fire at them while they were drinking and singing late Saturday night, police said.

The shooting took place at about midnight at a small pavilion inside the house of the victims in Songkhla's Hat Yai district.

Five of them died at the scene after being shot at their neck or head. Another died at the Raj Yindee Hospital.

The Nation

Thais will put up with almost anything but when they do snap it's a good idea to be somewhere else.

[ireleda]

In Calif. in a small town in the north gold country, they did pass a city ord. that no sounds from car music machines could be heard over 50 feet from said car.
And it was enforced, no laws in Thailand will be enforced unless
there is more money in your hand than in the offenders.

Thats the way it works, ,Equal justice for all, and the more you pay, the more the more Justice you get..

Just like the Judge that had been pieced off, said before proceedings started,," Plaintiff has given me 10k and defendant has also given me 10k, so this case will be decided on it's own merits"..

[adultcheee]

I now live in BKK.
In the few months I've been back, I have heard a couple.
In the past, I never heard them.
I never saw so much graffitti either.

I always wanted a sub-woofer ordinance in Southern California.
Unfortunately, most California cops believe they are too busy waiting around to catch "real criminals".

[adultcheee]

Actually thais seem to be somewhat indifferent to loud noise. ......

Please forgive me if a perform any political correctness faux pas, but ....


I feel it's a bit of the "Mai pen rai" in action. There is nothing that can be done, so they have long been able to simply accept and ignore it.

I also believe that many can focus very narrowly. Often, there will be 3 or 4 sources blasting away around the hood. One will be Issan, another morlam, another pop and then there's a TV! Unfortunately, I can't focus tightly enough and the mixture makes me nuts.

I can't "fix" others, so I am left with adjusting myself.

My solution was premium windows and doors. I batten down the hatches, crank up the fans, and most of the problem is gone!

At night, when the base riffs sometime resonate through, I add a couple memory-foam earplugs!

Welcome to Thailand!

[r5YOPDyk]

What happens if the noisy ones are actually the landlord and his/her family and friends?

5555 good point, she did not give me a solution for
that, i guess that the tricks we have here in the USA
such as: complaining to police, protesting ( an all american
passtime ), wont do the trick.

I'll just cross fingers and try to be open minded.

[adultcheee]

Curt said-

Might be, but I have never lived anywhere that everyone just done as they wanted with no thought of how it was effecting anyone else.
As an adult civilized person you surely must have some thoughts about how your actions affect others, ....

... Most folks are taught or have the common decency to consider how their actions will effect others, only human nature to do it, as I consider that to be a form of conciense, I could be wrong tho.

Those were the good old days!

Today, kids are left to do as they please. It's not good to set limits. It crushes their spirit!

This is true everywhere, not just Thailand. In the States, Southern California, we had kids playing (screaming) in the streets at 11pm. They run around like soi dogs.

Something that has been slow to catch on in Thailand is a righteous sub-woofer. In the States, 24/7, you can hear cars approach from a quarter mile away.

The only place I have found quite is my buddy's 47 acres in Oregon. But, head into Portland, and the peace is gone!

My biggest bitch is Thailand's notorious "whistling idiots"! You know, the guys in the parking lots. I was visiting the 16th floor of St. Louis Hospital. With the windows closed, and I could still hear the fool in their parking lot!

[atmowasia]

I have been in Bkk. with my wife now since last Friday we are living in a town house in sparser part of the city, I have never seen police car/truck ever drive through these sois, so if there is any problem whom can a farang call?...especialy if he/she does not speak any Thai. And the problem is that one of the neighbors is playing music way too loud..up til 11 p.m....and even up till 1 a.m. at times-as my wife tells me. So what are the laws & regulations about excessive noise in Bangkok?...are there any noise curfews as in U,S, cities?...And how do you get police to enforce the laws especialy if you are a farang, since they barely enforce the law when a Bkk. native calls them to complain?(as Nooch tells me)

[adultcheee]

And I though I was cranky!

[r5YOPDyk]

I'll take the liberty to bump this interesting topic
(for me it is) which I was talking about this same
issue with a close friend of mine. Since I'm about
to make my movie from Los Angeles to Bkk for the
first time, I am doing a lot of research/reading on
Thai culture, customs etc...and one of the things
that came to mind is noisy people.

I have learned that in the case of having noisy
next door neighbors at 1Am, calling the police
won't do the trick there as it does here in USA.
Here, at 11PM the police will come and turn the
music down in case of a party, so that means
that all it takes is a phone call and i can get
my sleep.

I dont care for loud music/tv during the day time,
but at night i want to have a nice peacefull sleep.
I was born and raised for 14 years in my home
country Mexico, but came to the USA at that
age and got used to the lifetyle here. There,
same as in Thailand, people like to listen to
loud music, party till late at night, i remember
it was 3 or 4 Am and the drinking and loud music
was still on and it was quite anoying.

I wouldn't like to come to have the same experience
in Thailand too knowing that not much can be done
about it same as in Mexico. The solution my friend
gave me is to complain to the landlord, but that most
Thais like to party outside the house, meaning, at a
bar, club etc. If i happen to have noisy neighbors,
I will just have to move, if they ask me why, I will
say it's the neighbors see if that will help

[ireleda]

but legaly with help of police Hunsolo-I can see that you live in the USA, because with a statement like that you sure do not live in Thailand..

Sved said --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually thais seem to be somewhat indifferent to loud noise. Not in my areas of Thailand where I have ever been, Thai give you the dog eye for speaking above a whisper, A lot of belly aching about Those loud Farang, hear that all the time and even see it posted on these forums by Steve Cleary for just one.
I have been around gun fire and heavy machinery and very large Engines, my hearing has been bad since my first hearing test in 1960, so I do talk loud but not only hearing wise but because I have spent my life in heavy noise, but it is different than heavy music noise and it is not an option unless you shut down the engines and then trains, ships and dredges stop functioning.
My wife and kid have the TV so low I can not hear it at all so I come and fool around on the PC, and they come in and I am watching TV news they bitch that it is to loud,, So no in my experience, Thai Just turn er up to show that they can as some sort of Face or status symbol,, "See, I got enough to drive every dog in the village crazy, I can bust the windows outta your house,, wish I had more, make me a bigger person"

Curt- I can't "fix" others, so I am left with adjusting myself.

My solution was premium windows and doors. I batten down the hatches, crank up the fans, and most of the problem is gone! But thats part of it,,If they had any consideration then you would not have to do such things. But you will find no one with even 1 iota of it here in this country at any time for any reason..

[QXCharles]

You are just screwed, There is nothing you can do except fall back on the great Thai feeling of Consideration,, which by the way is non existent here, it runs with Logic thinking of which is also non existent to them...

Oh please. Your words show nothing but your bias and prejudice attitude towards Thai people. Anytime you lump a group of people as "them" you have already drawn a line in the sand. Some of the MOST considerate people I have ever met are Thai. It is not to say there are those that are not, but to categorize them all like you did is ridiculous. All of the Thai students that study in the west that I have met are very very polite and considerate. My fiance is Thai and I would never think of ever going out with a western woman after living with her.
It sounds like the only person making emotional decisions is you.

[r5YOPDyk]

WOW, now i'm kinda worrying of coming to
live in a neighborhood as noisy as that where
at 6am they blast the loudspeakers like that.

Now, please let me ask this, and i may be
wrong but i hear there are sections in Bkk
where most of the population that live there
are 'non-thais' or farangs which ever is the
correct term, such areas like Sukumvit Rd
Silom Rd etc etc.. kinda like China town
so even in such areas where most of them
are farangs does it get noisy like that with
loud music from early morning till late at
night? i dont mind noise from cars motor
bikes etc. but just loud ppl partying till
late night but i guess theres only one
way for me to find out, just go there
and see 55