[slimfifa]

Ok, so earlier I was feeling really bad because my stomach is hurting and it never feels full and I went totally off the diet. I'm talking McD's AND Pizza Hut. I am completely sick now. Can I start over again tomorrow?

Ketostix question: I know ketostix don't have any thing to do with this diet, but I check mine every day. Would this be a good indicator of still losing if it is almost black?

Patch question: So, does the patch contain hormones or not? I'm thinking that is why I'm still hungry. I am a patch user. I'm also feeling light headed, dizzy at times, etc. (all before breaking my diet).

Carol

Ps- the food doesn't taste as good as I thought it would from cheating on the diet

[VIDEOHITE]

Ok, so earlier I was feeling really bad because my stomach is hurting and it never feels full and I went totally off the diet. I'm talking McD's AND Pizza Hut. I am completely sick now. Can I start over again tomorrow?

Ketostix question: I know ketostix don't have any thing to do with this diet, but I check mine every day. Would this be a good indicator of still losing if it is almost black?

Patch question: So, does the patch contain hormones or not? I'm thinking that is why I'm still hungry. I am a patch user. I'm also feeling light headed, dizzy at times, etc. (all before breaking my diet).

Carol

Ps- the food doesn't taste as good as I thought it would from cheating on the diet

1. Don't sweat cheating- we've all done it. The hcg diet is a HUGE change in eating for most of us- especially the first round. Just pick up your pants and start eating on protocol now.
2. When your body is in a far burning state- you should be in Ketosis... so keotstix actually are a good tester to see if the hcg diet is actually working for you (ie to see that you are burning fat and not muscle). Darker colors mean that more ketones are detected - so in other words that you are burning a lot of fat- which is exactly what you want.
3. The patches are the same as homeopathic drops- so they do contain hcg. Before you can rule that it's the patches making you hungry- it would be helpful to know a food journal and what you are doing each day. What foods and how many days did you load? What foods are you eating every day? Do you exercise? How many calories are you eating? When are you eating meals? When are you changing patches?
4. You will notice- the healthier you start to eat- the less and less your body will crave "junk" and the worse and worse you will feel. One time way before hcg- I stopped eating fast food for over 6 months- and then one night for whatever reason out with friends, and we stopped at Burger King. I didn't even finish half of the Whopper Jr. and I was puking all over. It tasted THAT nasty. Funny to think I had eaten all that crap all the time before and thought it tasted sooo wonderful LOL


If you could post answers to number 3- that would be helpful so I can help you. All to often too many people just say, "Oh its not working i should switch to ____ instead". Let's figure out what could be the issue and go from there.

[layevymed]

Since your stomach always has hunger pangs, I suggest you add in an extra portion of protein to keep you fuller. Dropping the Melba and maybe one fruit

I'm thinking if you're feeling this bad still, you're not getting any hcg in your system. I know Grammy said they did nothing for her

Ketostix don't tell you anything about losses. It just means you're using fat for fuel instead of carbs

[HsSp82U8]

You don't start over when you cheat, you just keep going and try not to do it anymore

[Fdhwzctl]

Ketosis is not a necessary component of this diet. I have never yet been in ketosis on it. 2 fruits a day are too many for me to hit it. And I hate those patches. They don't contain any hcg at all. I tried them for a week and was hungry no matter what I did. Tried two patches, tried taking it off a day, leaving one on a longer time. If you read the material that comes with the patches, you will see that they actually don't contain any hcg. They are not a transdermal patch in the usual way we think of patches. The mfg says you take what you need of the energy of it. that's pretty woo-woo and I'm very open to woo-woo usually. LOL But your body doesn't "need" hcg so that argument falls apart. If you still have hunger, I would stop and use another method. the weight you lose when you're hungry will be easily regained because it's the wrong kind of fat and you're also losing muscle.

[Trientoriciom]

Here is my food log- everything that touched my lips. I change my patches every third day in the morning. I place the new one on the left upper part of my chest changing positions with each new patch. I don't exercise. I walk only when I have to, literally (just being honest). My calories range from 450 to 550 depending on what I am eating. I still haven't gotten the menu down completely to make it even out. I loaded for 3 days and ate whatever I wanted to (mac & cheese, dunkin sticks, oatmeal, candy, McD's, etc). Please let me know if there is a way to get it straight so I don't feel hungry and my stomach doesn't hurt. Thank you.


My Daily Food Log
Date Time Food Item Serving Size Serving Size Calories # of Servings My Calories
5/29/2012 9am green tea/ stevia pack 1 0 0 0
5/29/2012 12:15pm orange Large 86 1 86
5/29/2012 12:15pm tomato 100g/(3.5oz) 96 1 96
5/29/2012 12:15pm lean beef 100g/(3.5oz) 110 1 110
5/29/2012 6:05pm sirloin steak 100g/(3.5oz) 106 1 106
5/29/2012 6:05pm cucumber 1 45 1 45
5/29/2012 6:05pm strawberries 10 Medium 40 1 40
5/29/2012 8:00pm melba toast 1 20 1 20
5/30/2012 9am vanilla/ chamomile tea 1 27 1 27
5/30/2012 12:30pm sirloin steak 100g/(3.5oz) 106 1 106
5/30/2012 12:30pm asparagus 12 spears 30 1 30
5/30/2012 1pm vanilla/ chamomile tea 1 27 2 54
5/30/2012 1pm granny smith apple 4.0oz 91 1 91
5/30/2012 5:30pm spinach 3c 21 1 21
5/30/2012 5:30pm chicken 3.5oz 21 1 21
5/30/2012 7:30pm Strawberries 10 Medium 40 1 40
5/30/2012 7:30pm lean beef 100g/(3.5oz) 110 1 110
5/31/2012 11am vanilla/ chamomile tea 1 27 1 27
5/31/2012 6pm chicken 3.5oz 21 1 21
5/31/2012 6pm asparagus 15 spears 30 1 30
5/31/2012 8pm granny smith apple chips 100g/(3.5oz) 91 2 182
5/31/2012 1pm sirloin steak 100g/(3.5oz) 106 1 106
5/31/2012 1pm cucumber 1 45 1 45
6/1/2012 12 noon lean beef 100g/(3.5oz) 110 1 110
6/1/2012 12noon spinach 3c 21 1 21
6/1/2012 12noon vanilla/ chamomile tea 1 27 1 27
6/1/2012 4pm orange Large 86 1 86
6/1/2012 6pm sirloin steak 100g/(3.5oz) 106 1 106
6/1/2012 8pm strawberries 10 Medium 40 1 40
6/2/2012 9am vanilla/ chamomile tea 1 27 1 27
6/2/2012 12noon lean beef 100g/(3.5oz) 110 1 110
6/2/2012 12noon tomato 100g/(3.5oz) 96 1 96
6/2/2012 8pm chicken 3c 21 1 21
6/2/2012 8pm melba toast 5 20 5 100
6/2/2012 8pm egg white 1 45 1 45
6/2/2012 8pm cabbage 3c 22 1 22
6/2/2012 9pm red apple Large 86 1 86
6/3/2012 9am vanilla/ chamomile tea 1 27 1 27
6/3/2012 1pm lean beef 100g/(3.5oz) 110 1 110
6/3/2012 1pm asparagus 15 spears 30 1.5 45
6/3/2012 3pm orange Large 86 1 86
6/3/2012 6pm sirloin steak 100g/(3.5oz) 106 1 106
6/3/2012 6pm cabbage 1c 22 2 44
6/3/2012 8pm red apple Large 86 1 86
6/4/2012 9am vanilla/ chamomile tea 1 27 1 27
6/4/2012 11am green apple 1 44 2 88
6/4/2012 12noon chicken 3c 21 1 21
6/4/2012 12noon asparagus 10 spears 30 1 30
6/4/2012 6pm lean beef 100g/(3.5oz) 110 1 110
6/4/2012 6pm cabbage 2c 22 1 22
6/4/2012 8pm strawberries 10 Medium 40 1 40
6/5/2012 9am vanilla/ chamomile tea 1 27 1 27
6/5/2012 8pm orange Large 86 1 86
6/6/2012 9am tea 1 0 1 0
6/6/2012 12:30pm sirloin steak 100g/(3.5oz) 106 1 106
6/6/2012 12:30pm cabbage 1c 22 2 44
6/6/2012 4pm orange Large 86 1 86
6/6/2012 6pm lean beef 100g/(3.5oz) 110 1 110
6/6/2012 6pm tomato 100g/(3.5oz) 96 1 96
6/6/2012 6pm lettuce 0.5 15 1 15
6/7/2012 8am vanilla/ chamomile tea 1 27 1 27
6/7/2012 12 noon green apple 1 44 1 44
6/7/2012 1pm shrimp 100g/(3.5oz) 106 1 106
6/7/2012 1pm brocolli 3c 24 1 24

Daily Calorie Intake alorie in
Date Calorie Intake Calories Left
5/29/2012 503 -3
5/30/2012 500 0
5/31/2012 411 89
1-Jun 390 110
6/2/2012 507 -7
6/3/2012 546 -46
6/4/2012 338 162
6/5/2012 113 387
6/6/2012 457 43

[retTreftowhexm]

I don't usually eat the melba toast anyway. So, I would have an egg for breakfast instead of an apple?
Thank you for answering.
Carol

[herbalviagra]

No, not an egg. That isn't on protocol except on occasion and even then it's 1 egg plus 3 egg whites. Eat an allowed protein in place of the fruit. So 3 1/2 oz of fish or chicken for example.

[CindyLavender]

Grammy- what do you mean by "your body doesn't "need" hcg"? I thought for this diet to work properly (consume abnormal fat) you had to have HCG in your system. When you say "If you still have hunger, I would stop and use another method" do you mean another diet all together or just injections or drops?

I got the patches because others had said they had HCG in them and that they worked. Is it all in my head about the patches working? I spent $100 on non-hormonal patches? I just don't get it.
Here is what the site says:
My hCG Way™ Bio App patch includes over 15 frequencies including (hCG) 6X, 12X, 30X, 60X, Human ChorionicGonadotropin; (Amino Acids) 3X, 6X, 12X, 30X, (L-Arginine, L-Carntinine, L-Ornithine, L-Tyrosine)
So, does it contain HCG in it?

Carol

[BruceQW]

So, I would have say, chicken for breakfast, steak for lunch, and shrimp for dinner and only have one fruit all day, but still keep the two vegetables?
Carol

[dosyrotsbop]

Those are the same patches I used. Your body doesn't need hcg like it needs estrogen for example. It needs hcg to lose weight but your body doesn't NEED hcg to function.

[vaalmerruutel]

So, if my body doesn't need HCG to function and I am wearing the patch, what does that mean? I am still not understanding what you are saying. So, I need the patch to lose weight? Or, I don't need the patch to lose weight? Is the patch hurting my body function in some way?
Carol

[SaamanthaSterlyng]

You have to have actual hcg to lose weight. The patches aren't really hcg so you're doing the diet with no help. When you have hunger they are not working so it's the same as a starvation diet. That's why I said to stop and get something else.

[Caluabdum]

What did you switch to? Any place to get patches with actual HCG in them?
Carol

[konanoileaski]

You'd have to go to a doctor to get real patches. You can't get them online. I switched back to injections.

[Psymoussy]

Can I do the pellets? They are homeopathic. Does that mean they don't contain the HCG? I am confused. If some people are taking the pellets (homeopathic) and are on a VLCD does that mean they are losing the wrong type of fat? Isn't that dangerous? Do you trust this site- http://platinumbodyperformance.com ?

[WaicurtaitfuT]

Homeopathic are different from the patches. I actually think they are fine to use. But I'm very leery of the pellets after trying them myself. I know how you're supposed to feel on hcg and I felt none of those things. I'm a master dose tweaker and I had someone who had used them and liked them help me try to dose them but nothing worked. I'm just very skeptical of those. You could certainly do the pellets or homeopathic drops.

[sarasaraseda]

I just checked out the site. Those are fake. they have no hcg in them, only amino acids. Go to the homeopathic thread and ask which ones are legitimate. I think Celeste are still good drops.

[dubballey]

Thank you. I will research them.

[PlayboyAtWork]

Carol
Are you against taking injections